Hey board,
just studying the tables in the back of the manual. Anybody Know what the extra skill such: as Detect Noise, Climb Walls, and Read Languages are on the bard/theif tables?

those are just ad&d skills, but theyre not used in bg2
the only ones you can use are:
move silently
hide in shadows
open locks
pick pockets
find traps
set traps
detect illusion

and btw....rouge skills sounds like youre talking about makeup [img]smile.gif[/img]

rogue*

lol... Thanks jus wonderin'

hehehe.. C'mon, now - any good master of disguise should make sure to carefully hone their "rouge" skills, right?

Vision (you have to see to apply the right rouge)
Dexterity (for application)
Charisma (to make the best use of it)
Knowledge (of the best rouges)

I apologize for the humor, but please understand: I used to deal with a bunch of rogues when I DM'd in an online game for years, and occasionally we'd get a new member who called the group "rouges." He/she'd be mercilessly pilloried by the other players, and I got to wincing whenever that misspelling showed up. I'll be quiet, and good now. [img]smile.gif[/img] :D

those extra abilities in the charts are valid PnP 2nd Edition AD&D abilities. For some reason, whoever made the rulebook copied the chart out of a 2nd Edition rulebook. It added much to my confusion, also, when i rolled up my first character ever: a swashbuckler who eventually died in the circus tent... oh, the shame... and the sweet nostalgic memories... monkeys...