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Harkoliar 08-16-2004 03:25 AM

This may be or may not be a touchy subject for you guys. If you guys may feel hot-headed about anything said, just cool off and dont read anymore. No flamebaiting and such as well as throwing tantrums. ;) Pls, this is just a debate and keep an open mind to it.

So here goes.

Basically, my friend and I were arguing about which is better. I know there are pro's and cons in every form of government. Now we started talking about the subject of crime. I know that a Capitalist country would have a higher crime rate than a socialist country would have because of the undesirable side effects of economics.

my uncle said that it is an "economics of crime" or was it "crime of economics" (I cant remember which)


So suffice to say that we got into abit of arguing. He wants me to prove my point with hard evidence. I have been searching around the web to prove my point. But im also interested in hearing your views about this matter.

Harkoliar 08-16-2004 03:45 AM

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...1/266umtwb.asp

i found an article which rejects my ideas... ouch.. :(

The Hierophant 08-16-2004 04:32 AM

what is crime?

Harkoliar 08-16-2004 05:35 AM

err.. crime is like criminal offense.. stealing, murder.. against the law basically.

The Hierophant 08-16-2004 05:50 AM

I see, so you're not a philosophy student then? ;)

JrKASperov 08-16-2004 06:05 AM

While the American Enterprise Institute's John Lott has shown that greater gun ownership reduces crime

I wouldn't call this article trustworthy, if they state this...

Harkoliar 08-16-2004 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hierophant:
I see, so you're not a philosophy student then? ;)
nope.. im curious why you thought of that :D . I do like to dabble in a little philosophy discussions now and again.

Stratos 08-16-2004 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Harkoliar:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...1/266umtwb.asp

i found an article which rejects my ideas... ouch.. :(

This article is a comparison between American and European crime rates, not between capitalist and socialist countries. European countries are capitalist countries too. ;)

Harkoliar 08-16-2004 07:56 AM

Really?? I was thinking of Norway and other Scandanavian Countries... I remember that they are Socialist countries. If Im wrong, can you tell me what country is one?

Gnarf 08-16-2004 07:57 AM

No countries are.


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