I was just wondering if anyone here has any experience with it. And if you do, what did you do? Did it help?

you know how the story goes. Just looking for advice and tips [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Btw: I Am back!

Is this depression or THE depression?

this is depression. not the depression

Gf dump you? Well if u have a boat and a sharp axe, go sink it before she sells it..

[ 09-30-2005, 12:05 AM: Message edited by: burnzey boi ]

Okay, Is it sad depression or condition depression?

Eat Lots! hehe

Exercise *grin* I know it's one of the most hated things in the world (for some) but when someone pissed me off I just left and went for a half-hour run, came back right as rain.

I have recently broken out of a four year hell with low self esteem and emotional rollercoaster-ride. It was induced by nearly dying and that in turn started a destructive circle. There is no wonder-cure against depression - otherwise it wouldn't be one of the most frequent conditions in the Western world - but I might be able to offer some advice. In order:

1) Be honest to yourself. Don't try to fool yourself into believing everything is going to work out. The first step to a solution is identifying the problem. Often (as in my case) the thing that induced the depression is not the same thing as whatever keeps it alive.

2) Be honest to your surroundings. I never told anyone until it had driven me into the fringes of dispair after three years. Not even my closest. You simply don't want to trouble the ones you love so you tell them what they want to hear. That creates a negative environment - because believe it or not, they can feel these things.

3) Seek assistence if you cannot overcome it. A shrink cannot cure you. Mine couldn't at least. But he or she can be a great help for you to cure yourself.

4) Once it's over - don't "put it behind you". Something started this and fueled it. Identify it. Learn from it. Work with it. Or ultimately avoid it.

A depression is a highly personal matter. I am not sure how much this can help you.

Very good post mad-dog.

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Gotta agree with MD here, you've got to work out what's causing it, and work on dealing with it.

There's nothing wrong in asking for help.


*Personaly, I got out of depression by accepting my gender, and making my physical body match [at least starting to])

Mad-dog has some good advice there. I'm afraid my own advice is tailored to my own personal experience but here goes:

Golden rule #1: If your depression is caused/fueled by a drug, do not fool yourself into thinking it can be fixed by a drug. Prescribed by a doctor or otherwise. It can't.

Examine your situation logically with attention to the details no one else can see. But not too carefully. You may not like what you find. Weigh each up according to how serious a threat it is to your well being and deal with them in that order. Don't be deterred by the fact that it's never that simple. Of course it isn't. But you still have to try to approach it logically.

If a girl/guy lies at the center of your well of depression, do what you can to forget them. Not easy, i know, but you have to ask yourself: "Will my own self sacrifice earn their respect? Or attention? Or pitty?" Pitty, maybe, but otherwise a whole lotta contempt. And then you're forgotten...

If there's parental factors in the equation, and a general sense of hatred to the world that gave you bad genes, then... er... Actually how do you get over that one? ;)

There's a lot more that i can't find words for. But mad=dog's point about it all being personal is 100% true. So it's all a little vague and rhetorical. But the last bit of advice is applicable to all: don't be afraid to talk about it. Friends, family, IWers, co-workers. All have advice that can be beneficial to your recovery. Just be mindful and observe the reactions of whoever you choose to talk to. You'll know if their advice is worth listening to.

Depends on if you are talking situational depression or a life long disposission for depression. Situational depression is easier to cure because it can be cured with personal perspective, honesty, help from friends and family and yes even drugs to help stablize the client. If you suffer from hereditary depression there is no cure only managed help. Truely edjucation is your best source of help. Knowing the warning signs of depression and being able to manage your life around it is key. It is my opinion only severe depression needs medication for an extended period of time, and each person will react differently to the meds so you need to know what they do and give them a chance to work 4-6 weeks. The best thing for depression outside of educating yourself is to have a good cardio workout as many days a week as possible, eat a healthy diet, and take an Omega 3 suppliment. After batteling depression for years and managing a med regiment I have gone off the meds and do the abouve mentioned and the results are great. I needed the meds in the beggining because I couldn't motivate myself to do anything. After they took effect I worked to get off them and so far so good. There is nothing wrong with having to take a managed medication the rest of your life if it is needed, people do it all the time with high blood presure or diabeties. I have found the omega 3 helps tremendously with the suicidel thoughts, mine was so bad I could feel the image of myself killing myself so strong I would start to shudder. The drugs helped and I even uped the dosage because after 4 years they came back. With the exercise and Omega 3 I have more energy and no sexual side effect or weight gain. Do your research but the results with omega 3 are fantastic.

There's always the age old solution.

Eat hundreds of pounds of feel good chocolate.

Or you can buy the book Stop Smiling, Start Kvetching and learn how to properly complain about your problems.

Heh well I've been feeling very sluggish recently, and normally nothing upsets me. So this thread is like a blessing in a sea of nothingness.

1. Thankyou Spirits for making this thread.
2. Thankyou everyone for some of the advice.

Yep, that's true.

Well, Yea. it's not sadness depression. I mean there isn't anything to be depressed of. =_=. not that i know of. Everything is really going fine, but just sometimes all of a sudden i get totally "sluggish" =_=. yea. thanks for the advice.

And actually MD and sev's Advice sounds really helpful. I'll try that, you guys are awesome [img]smile.gif[/img] thanks

~spirits

See a therapist.

While there is a stigma still with this, it's becoming much more common and acceptable. Seeing a therapist could really help you.

If you're feeling sluggish and generally run down and unmotivated, don't look past the age old, tried and true method of good diet (vitamins) and exercise. You could be surprised at how increased energy makes you assess your problems. If you still have any after that... ;)

beer isnt a drug.. So drink til you drop with ya mates! (im not good at these sorts of things..)

I had some depression issues of my own a while back, for the last 4 years in fact. I didn't know where to turn to either so I came here and asked for advice.

I started 3 or 4 threads revolving around my depression and how others dealt with it, and each and every one of them helped progressively moreso than the last.

I believe Mad=dog contributed to my last one actually, it was genuinely helpful advice and similar to what he posted here.

I dealt with my demons, you can too, anybody can. You just have to persevere, work at it, and learn from it. Listen to the kind advice been given here, you'll be fine, don't worry. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Edit- In response to your "sluggish" symptons, I think I can relate. I used to get wistful, tired for no apparent reason, aimlessly frustrated, fed up with everything and nothing in particular and generally just wishing I didn't have to exist. It'll pass, don't worry.

[ 10-02-2005, 12:56 PM: Message edited by: Sigmar ]

yay, well this was alot of help . it openeed my mind to, the fact that other people go through it too. and they've lived, why woundln't i? thanks guys.

Yes, I've been both at your end, Spirit Reborn, and now I help others. If you want to PM me I'll be glad to discuss it with you. There are many reasons for depression. Certainly you aren't alone and the fact is when you are depressed you feel so alone. It truly is healing just to know others have experienced what you have experienced because you then realize other people understand as your last post indicates.

Hey guys... This site contains a lot of great information on depression and other disorders. I usually give my clients the information sheet 'overview of depression' on the page I linked when we talk about what depression is and how it's caused etc. The other info sheets are also really well done and useful though as well, esp if you have fairly low level depression and are still able to motivate yourself to change things.

You're definitely right that one of the most valuable things is realising how normal it is to experience depression and how many people, irrespective of how much money they have or how old they are or how good their jobs are, suffer from depression. I don't have personal experience of depression (i.e. suffered it myself) but I have the experience of seeing clients with it and it really can be such a debilitating disorder. One of the best things you can do is give yourself permission to be 'sick' - that doesn't mean wallowing in the depression and thinking that you have an excuse to do nothing and make no attempts to get well, but acknowledging that there's something legitimately wrong and there's no shame or weakness associated with being depressed.