NOW they kick into gear? What about the figgin' THIRD TEST. Bunch of two faced candy-arsed wimps! Oh whadda madda Shaney Wayney, can't handle the curry-wurry?

Now that I've got that out of my system, and worked through my intense frustration at missing yet another exciting game, I'll say I'm very very glad two of my favourite batsmen, Mark Waugh and Matthew Hayden, along with another fav, Michael Bevan are amongst the runs.

What I don't get is this. Bevan is excluded from the test team because he has "problems with the short ball". He remains arguably the best one day batsman in the world, and because of the bouncer restriction is not trouble by inceasant attacks at his weak spot. He is also a master of spin.

India is full of spinners and flat tracks. Not much short pitched bowling there.
Where was Bevan??????

IN SYDNEY?????!!!!!!!

....um that's right we lost.....duhhh....

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awwwww, India WOOPED YUR ASSES, oh well there is no denying that ENGLAND RULES CRICKET!!! http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif

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...pride comes before a fall...
i knew it would happen, aussies just get too cocky. even though they're controlling it in the media - you know "we've just gotta keep our heads down and focus on winning matches" - before the second test you could tell they were cocky as. then they loose one match and it all falls apart!
all they needed to do was win one more test to be considered the greatest aussie team in history (s.waugh's own words - have to win in india to be the best)
i'm blathering

One more thing Yorick!....

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I was hoping to come here and get a description. I found out what a googily is but still need clarification on point scoring, like how to score, the object, etc. Thanks for taking the time to explain the googily......

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Grey Mage, does this help?

When the batsman hits the ball he may run to the other end of the wicket. The batsman at that end runs to his end. This is 1 run (as long as they don't get out). They can run as many runs as are safe after hitting it (usually 1,2 or 3 but sometimes more) If the ball is hit into the fence, it counts as 4 runs; if it goes over the fence on the full, it is 6 runs.
The object is to get more runs than the other team. Like baseball in that respect, one team bats to get run, the other teams fields to prevent them from getting runs and trys to get them out.

I hope this what you want. Forgive me if i'm being too simplistic or not detailed enough. What do the other cricket fiends think?

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Yeah innings - it depends, traditonally your have a 'Test Match' (which isn't a test at all it's the real thing - no i don't know why) A test goes for 5 days containing 2 innings for each team.
In more recent times the 'One Day' match has appeared which actually is one day long and each team gets 1 inning each. Each innings in the one day match is limited to 50 overs. Test matches are unlimited and theoretically one inning could last all five days - but no one would win.
(quickly - an 'over' is comprised of six balls. a ball is like a pitch in baseball - pitcher=bowler, to pitch=to bowl. after each over you swap bowlers)

Ok - to get an out -
1)if the bowler hits the stumps with the ball
2)if the batsman hits the ball and is caught mid air
3)if the batsmen are running and the ball is thrown by a fielder and hits the stumps while a batsman is not back to the safety zone near the stumps (known as the crease)
4)if the wicket keeper (like the catcher in bball) catches an un-hit ball and knocks over the stumps while the batsman is out of the crease - even if he is not running.
5) this one's tough- 'leg before wicket' - a comlicated rule where the ball hits the batsman in the shins. if it does not touch the bat, and would have hit the stumps if his leg wasn't in the way, and conforms to a couple of other niggly criteria then it's an out - also known as LBW.

There are 11 players a side and since you must have two batsmen in at all times it takes 10 'wickets' (outs) to get the whole side out.

A team can also declare - that is retire if they think they are in a strong position - there are many reasons to do this.

BTW 'wicket' can mean
1) an out
2) the strip in the centre of the field that has stumps and batsmen at either end
3) the stumps

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A flamboyant century by Romesh Kaluwitharana sentenced England to a <font color="orange">crushing 10-wicket loss</font> in the third and final one-day international in Colombo.

Graham Thorpe admitted that England had been <font color="orange">"completely outplayed"</font> by Sri Lanka in the one-day series. It is the <font color="orange">first time in their history of 325 one-day internationals that England have lost by such a margin</font>.

Set a modest target of 166 by England, Kaluwitharana (102*) and Atapattu (53*) wasted no time in taking the attack to the English bowlers, and wrapped up the 3-0 series whitewash in <font color="orange">just the 34th over</font>.

Earlier, England had struggled to set a reasonable total in the third and final one-day international in Sri Lanka.

Put into bat by Sri Lanka's stand-in captain, Marvan Atapattu (Jayasuriya was forced to miss out with a knee injury), Chaminda Vaas soon stole the initiative for the hosts with the wickets of Stewart and Trescothick. Stewart had looked to be in good touch, striking three boundaries, and was a little unlucky to play on attempting to cut a ball that stayed low.

Trescothick was dropped early in his innings, by Mahela Jayawardene in the slips, but followed in similar style to Stewart, playing on. Vaas completed his opening spell with the memorable figures of 7-5-5-2.

Nick Knight was unable to make the most of his opportunity, selected for this final game in place of Vaughan, and became the third batsman to play on, this time to Nuwan Zoysa, to leave the score on 39-3. This soon became 39-4 as Thorpe, so often the corner stone of an English innings, was brilliantly caught by Kumar Sangakkara in the gully, first ball.

Hick and Flintoff were then forced to consolidate as Atapattu turned to his battery of spinners. Progress was slow, but the pair added 49 runs before Flintoff was caught by Dharmasena of Samaraweera for a sedate 24. White could add only four (his previous five one-day international innings had not produced a run) before Arnold bowled him and it took a partnership of 44 between Hick and Ealham (in for the rested Caddick) to reach a respectable total.

Hick began to accelerate, but an attack of cramp was clearly troubling him when he skied a shot to de Saram off Dharmasena to be dismissed just four short of a half-century.

Ealham followed shortly afterwards and Vaas returned to claim Croft, caught at point, before Mullally spoilt his figures somewhat by edging consecutive boundaries.

England finally set a total of 165-9 in their 50 overs, setting their hosts a run-rate of little over three an over to claim a 3-0 series whitewash.

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[This message has been edited by Memnoch (edited 03-29-2001).]

mrrffpph, snigger...
oh alright
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England lost by HOW MUCH - say again, 10 wickets!!!!! Must have been celebratng the test vicory a bit hard by the sounds of it.

Back in India, I see the LBW score was fairly even this match - did someone like Kerry Packer make the umps a better offer? Score is still about 30-1 for the tour (good on ya Peter Willey, you at least gave one apiece in the tests - that's something to say for the English, can't play all that well, but damn good umpires http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif ).

Davros

Davros

Harbhajan will struggle in this series because he needs time to take his wickets - in a 50 over game he's going to get flogged a bit. In the Tests he always seemed to get flogged in the first couple of sessions then he came back to take a rush of wickets. He's not going to have the time in the ODIs IMO.

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Hi Memmie,

I did think it was funny that the Indian commentator last night said :

"Harbijhan has no right appealing for those. He is bowling over the wicket and pitching way outside Hayden's (left hander) leg stump. If you apply the laws of the game PROPERLY that can never be given out".

I wonder what Adam Gilchrest thinks of that summation, given at least 3 similar raw deals he got in the tests.

Davros

Remember you can also be given out if hit in the pads and not offering a shot, though to do that in India you would have to be pretty brave. And it's not too suprising they lost to India because they cannot play spin well enough. Australia went down to Sri Lanka in similar fashion, but I think the Australian players will have to be in wheel chairs and suffering temporary blindness to lose to England in the Ashes series. http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...iles/smile.gif
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Not if the ball pitches outside the leg stump you can't, not unless someone has changed the rules on me when I wasn't looking. Outside the off stump certainly, pitching on our outside leg stump is automatic not out.

Davros

Hello everyone. Not many people know that Ireland have a cricket team and that last year both Mark and Steve Waugh played for Ireland against Zimbabwe.

There seems to be a little bit of bias in favour of the number of Australians posting here so I thought I'd give my support to England. Memnoch - you know deep down that the only matches that really matter are the Test matches. Give England some credit for their performances against Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

I think that the Ashes will be very exciting this year. Australia are still the best team in the world but at least England now have a team with some backbone. If you come thinking you can win blindfold you may get a suprise.

I'm just joshing with Hesperex, Dublin. http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...miles/wink.gif

It will be an excellent Ashes series. You have to admit, touring the subcontinent is the hardest tour to make, because the Indian batsmen and spinners really know how to play on those pitches. It's even harder than touring the Carribean in my opinion.

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I've heard tell that the most important series to the Aussies now is the South African one and that the Ashes don't really matter. Does it still mean a lot to you to beat the Poms?

we will beat them, oh yes, we WILL beat them...

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Yorick - I'm guessing that you are also an Australian. Yes I do eat, some might say too much - why do you ask?

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This was one of those 'Does a bear shit in the woods?' questions. I get your point Yorick. Sorry oim a bit tick! What I can't understand is why you enjoy beating them so much. They haven't been very good recently. Why does it matter so much to you Australians?

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This was great, Thanks for the education you guys gave me. I will now not flip past a Cricket match in ignorance. The only question I have is Who should I be rooting for.....can someone helpme with that.....http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...miles/hihi.gif

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Gray Mage - welcome to the exciting world of cricket. If you see any of the England v Australia games in the summer I recommend you root for the underdogs.

After losing to India they need all the support they can get http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif

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Historical context. Surely the Irish should understand that. If you were to gain the upper hand in Rugby, and consistently beat the English would you not relish it? Would you not relish grinding the collective pride of the English Rugby world into the proverbial mud?!
Muhahahahar!

VENGANCE for the insulting disdain from years past! NEVER will we forget the attitude of the first test teams to our shores, always we will make them eat any traces, any remnants of old arrogant sporting superiority! Muhahahahahahar!

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Olde English saying:
"If you can't bowl them out, bowl bodyline."

Olde West Indian Saying:
"Bodyline is for nancies, go for the head"

Australian (Steve Waugh) saying:
"When on top, dig your heel in...let them taste the mud they served."



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Another reason is the way Fleet Street treats the England cricketers when they lose: makes for hilarious reading. http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif

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No England are always the underdog Gray Meister. That's the most important rule of cricket.
But my question to you is - Would YOU back a loser?

It's quite simple, Others may join in if they desire too.
Now I shout:

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Obviously I've touched on a bit of a raw nerve here.

Yorick, you are basing your assumption about my heritage on the basis of my current location.

The Duke of Wellington is quoted as saying 'Just because you are born in a stable, it doesn't make you a donkey'

There is a piece of advice that my father gave me about meeting Irishmen selling fruit and veg. I can't quite bring it to mind at the moment. http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...miles/wink.gif

Memnoch - do you keep those archive Fleet Street newspapers from the last time England failed to win a series. They must be worth a few dollars by now http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif

Leonis - let battle commence. I reply with:

'Nasser Hussein's Barmy Army, Nasser Hussein's Barmy Army'

All joking aside, isn't fair to say that the reason that it is so important to Australians that they beat England is that you are still a young nation with a very old inferiority complex? http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif

OK, just so that people know my background, I'm an expatriate American who moved to Sydney about 12 years ago and fell in love with the place (I was 15 at the time). I've never met an American with an inferiority complex. http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...es/biggrin.gif

Anyway, the Poms are and have always been the Old Enemy, so even though South Africa is most probably the better team, and India a very difficult team to beat at home, beating Nasser Hussain's men is a special kind of satisfaction. http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...iles/smile.gif

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That's what I like to hear Memnoch. By the way, I'm glad to see that you were not misled by my mis-spelling of the captain's name http://www.tgeweb.com/ironworks/cgi-...iles/smile.gif

Um, sorry Dublin, ...we are the oldest nation on earth.

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Talkin' to myself. Guess this is a crickocentric thread after all. Kinda like it here all quiet and serene. Remember Lennie Pascoe? He would never have stuck one up the date...

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