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Strangely enough, I didn't find the final battle that hard.
The 'Twisted Rune' battle on the other hand was, for me, the only battle that I had to reload on around 7 seven times to figure out a tactic that worked. What does everyone else think? |
i think most would agree.
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Twisted rune wasen't that hard for me... I set traps to kill the lich and then just drew the other out 1 by one. My personal pet hate is the um... 'green' dragon just before entering the final area... that is a nasty fight (I really hate insect plague).
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Which one is the rune battle, I can't remeber it?
One of the hardest bits i found was the mind flayer lair. You could sya it isn't a single battle but you have to fight for every inch you move |
If you don't remember the twisted rune, you propably haven't done it. It's a sort of secret battle.
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For my solo druid:
The hardest battles were easily the group in the Promanade, at the start of the game and Fikraag (at level 13 http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no.../hollering.gif ) Very difficult, many realods needed! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif Now he comfortably wooping ass in ToB http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif ------------------ http://www.animfactory.com/animation...s/j_md_clr.gif [This message has been edited by Jerome (edited 09-15-2001).] |
I have to agree with the people that said the Twisted Rune was the toughest battle. Also, the inner sanctum of the Unseeing Eye is near impossible unless you have a cloak of reflection/mirroring or you do it later on in the game when your guys are higher level.
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I pulled off the unseeing eye quest with all my characters from lvl 8-10. At first I felt bad about cheesing out on the gauths, but the gauths also cheat: while they are held by my web they can still use their ranged attack. So I just webbed, and cloudkilled em, with a few fireballs thrown in. As for the few beholders, I just rushed em with my kensai and monk and they didn't last long. But I admit to about a dozen reloads http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif
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Hmmmmm - I'm still playing but for me the Shadow dragon(?), before I found out about the cheesey cloudkill solution, was quite hard and took about 5 reloads.
Personally I found the Mindflayer Lair OK. Took 1 reload but chaos prevention is a fab spell http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif ------------------ Regret nothing. |
MY thougest was the shadow dragon I think, since I couldn't cheese with Jaheira's magic resistance.
But I managed to kill him without cheesing http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif And Unseeing eye was fairly easy for my level 9-12 party (i think). Man, how frightened I got the first time I encountered a Beholder http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif So I loaded up with haste, protection spells on my thanks, ect... and then it turned out they were not much thougher than the ghauts http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif ------------------ We call him Bobby Corwen http://www.finalfantasy.nu/forum/minichoco.gif |
yep. imo beholders are far too weak in BG2. They are meant to be monsters that will basically kill you on sight. I think their abilities must have very high saves, because I've never been killed by their death/petrification/etc. rays.
*spoiler* . . . . . . . . . . Also the unseeing eye itself is a big disappointment. Looks exactly like a normal beholder, and he croaks after you use the rod and hit him *once*. how lame. |
For me, the toughest battles (in difficult order) were:
1 - The Twisted Rune (I couldn't even escape the fight because the room was so narrow and small and the door was locked)! 2 - Firkraag. Exactly when I thought Nalia had hilled him with 2 cloudkills and 1 death fog, he cast heal on himself and I had to confront him with non-area effect spells...fire protection spells had a short duration...ans as this wasn't enough, my party had to defend itself from his physical attacks... 3 - Kangaxx the Demi-Lich. Few weapons that could hurt him. Hard to hit and virtually immune to magic...and imprisonment spells http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no.../angryfire.gif 4 - The Mind Flayers'lair in Underdark. As someone has pointed out, it's not a very difficult battle but you have a fight every inch you come across. Just one mistake and you're dead. 5 - And finally, the final battle with Slayer/Irenicus. Not because of the slayer himself, but because of that bunch of demons - protection from evil had no effect!!! |
I gotta agree that the green dragon with insect plague fight is very nasty. Your mages can get mauled pretty bad. Overall though twisted rune is probably the hardest fight. Doing that fight straight up is crazy. If you don't try and fight the stuff one at a time its very very hard.
You know its suprising to me to see several people mention the shadow dragon. I found it to be the easiest of all the dragons. I am not sure really why but every time I have played it just seems that I did not have to do reloads like I did on the others. [This message has been edited by deathknight (edited 09-17-2001).] |
I found the 2nd Irenicus battle very tough the 1st time through the game. Had to use high level abilities in TOB to defeat him...
This time, I shall try very hard not to exceed the original 2,950,000 exp cap. The Twisted Rune fight isn't so bad unless you want to kill all the monsters for the exp. In my case, I just let the remaining monsters fight one another and then I picked up the staff at the end... |
Hi again, out of curiousity I decided to try he twisted rune quest to check if it's do-able before you leave for Spellhold. I did it right after I got the amulet of power. Result: success http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif
My party was as follows: PC kensai 10 - mage 12 Minsc level 12 Keldorn level 11 Anomen fighter 7 - cleric 13 Jaheira fighter 10/druid 12 Jan illusionist 11/thief 12 Is this considered low level or the norm? Anyway,had to re-load once because the beholder petrified Minsc once and I didn't know how to get him back (not sure if the spell would run out after a while and couldn't be bothered to wait). Also, I didn't kill all the monsters, as I mentioned above; just let them kill one another wherever possible. Firkraag was much tougher... for me, at least. |
Shadow Dragon was much tougher than Firgraag for me.
I did the Firgraag quest very early in my initial run with the game. Party consisted of: PC: 10th lvl Sorcerer Minsc: 9th lvl Korgan: 9th lvl Aerie: 8th/9th level C/M (I think) Jahiera: 9th/10th lvl F/D Yoshi: 9th lvl First did the "fake talk" strategy and it was a breeze. After reading a post here about the "beauty and honor" of dragons I felt that the big boy deserved a fair fight. Summoned a bunch of stuff and beat him that way with no loss of any NPCs. Reloaded the game at the beginning of chapter 2 to add Jan and Anomen for Aerie and Yoshi. By the time I got to the Temple Ruins quest I was: PC: 10th lvl sorcerer Minsc: 10th lvl Anomen: 9th lvl Cleric (he had already passed his test) Jahiera: 9th/11th lvl F/D Viconia: 9th lvl Jan: 9th/10th lvl M/T Not sure if these battles get harder if your party is a higher level... but the Shadow dragon was much tougher. Had to reload a few times before I worked out a winning strategy. About to do seeing eye quest so I'm sure both of these battles will pale in comparison to what's next... |
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I might have missed it, but why doesn't anyone post about those freakin' Demon Knights in the Underdark??
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You're kidding me Dundee!! I know you are!! Those freaking Demon Knights are a real pain in the ass!!!
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CHEESY!! DUNDEE IS CHEESY!!!!
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------------------ If not a Sorcerer casting total oblivion, then a Paladin meting out justice. Otherwise, I think I will just be a bard and torture my enemies with, "My Heart Will Go On". Platinium Sorcerer of ALSB, Aerie Loving Sacred Band! She's MeowRrrr, and more! http://www.gifs.net/animate/dflysb2.gif ------------------------- Baldur's Gate Item Mart |
On the contrairy: you sent someone...( http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...s/rolleyes.gif ) in to do the dirty job!!!
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------------------ If not a Sorcerer casting total oblivion, then a Paladin meting out justice. Otherwise, I think I will just be a bard and torture my enemies with, "My Heart Will Go On". Platinium Sorcerer of ALSB, Aerie Loving Sacred Band! She's MeowRrrr, and more! http://www.gifs.net/animate/dflysb2.gif ------------------------- Baldur's Gate Item Mart |
I have to agree with Dundee here. Using summoned creatures as your first line of attack/defense isn't cheezy, its good strategy.
In medieval times you didnt see knights charging battle lines first. You saw archers raining death from afar... and then foot soldiers and mercenaries following them (because like summoned creatures, they were expendable). The knights (much like your own party) were the most valuable part of the army, and usually were employed at the most strategic times, which happened to be after other (less important & expensive) groups had weakened the opposition. casting multiple cloudkills or death fogs IS cheezy.. but sometimes fun! =) |
Demon Knights made easy...
Give Minsc boots of speed, bow + frost arrows. The knights will never get close enough to hit him. easy peasy. |
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