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knoj 02-20-2002 05:21 PM

in regards to the earlier question posted by cloud88, i was wondering if you ever fought drizzt? and if you did, did you beat him? and is there any ramifications for killing him? you see i met him early on and tried to fight him but he quickly butchered me (i had no magic and all weapons were ineffective) so i gave up. since he up and disapeared after that, this question is probably only relevant for future games that i start. unless he reapears later? but anyways, is he beatable and if so, what ramifications are there???

Lavindathar 02-20-2002 05:26 PM

<font color="cyan">Hey dude, I personally have never fought him, as I I couldn't be arsed.

There is nothing really to gain(bar the items), but even when I pickpocketed Frostband, I re-loaded so I didn't have it. I didn't want it as someone told me it was there, and I didn't want to keep it without me finding it.

But from what I have been told, there are consequences. In BG2, it effects your game. I wont tell you how/why.

Hope that helps, and if you wanna try and beat him, knock yourself out!</font>

knoj 02-20-2002 05:38 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>But from what I have been told, there are consequences. In BG2, it effects your game. I wont tell you how/why.<hr></blockquote>

thanks for the advice i will keep it in mind for the next time i start a game.

if anyone else has any experience with Drizzt, let me know, i'm quite of curious.

Mortis 02-20-2002 05:50 PM

First time i played BG 1 and met Drizzt, being the inexperianced and follhardy adventurer i was as yet unschooled in the art of knowing when to run. I ran into drizzt and watched him cut a squad of Gnolls to pieces and then asked me for help. At this point in didnt think he needed it and i rather like his two scimitars, so i turned on him with the impression that my strong and well equiped team would make short work of this lone fighter. How wrong i was. Within a matter of minutes he had reduced my enitire fighting force to small cubes of meat. I sat and watched with horror mixed with shock at the devastation caused by this one man. After the shock had faded i asked myself the question, "Why on earth did he need my help in dispatching a group of gnolls?"

Darkman 02-20-2002 05:57 PM

My last party "fought" Drizzt because they were a mostly evil party and I needed the Reputation drop. That was the first and last time I killed him. Here's the post I made about it:

http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/cg...c&f=1&t=001892

I really wouldn't suggest you kill Drizzt though. Why? Because you can't kill him without being extremely cheesey. Plus, the items you get from him are insanely powerful and they will upset the game balance for the rest of the game. And, as others have mentioned, there will be consequences for this course of action in BG2!

knoj 02-20-2002 06:21 PM

HOLY S%*T !! from reading your past message Darkman, it sounds like this Drizzt is a frickin fetchin FORTRESS!!

though, i guess the only way i could justify taking his stuff would be through "face to face or conventionable" methods. but, before that i think i would atleast need a hint to the ramifications that would be forthcoming in BG2.

if anyone wants to elaberate, feel free. however, you should probably add a spoiler notice.

since some people like to learn, but not be taught.

[ 02-20-2002: Message edited by: knoj ]</p>

Daniel 02-20-2002 06:40 PM

SPOILER(Killing Drizzt)
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My usual tactic is to leave all my party at one side of the map and just go in with 1 character armed with boots of speed, potion of speed and plenty of arrows of piercing. and then try to keep my distance (cheesy I know, but effective)

[ 02-20-2002: Message edited by: Daniel ]</p>

knoj 02-20-2002 06:52 PM

Say daniel, or anyone else, do you know if drizzt stays in the same map area after the initial encounter (knoll fight)???

because i met him early on and i'm almost positive that he walked off into the abyss.

and again, did you experience any problems in BG2, if (or when) you imported your character??

Darkman 02-20-2002 10:20 PM

[SPOILERS ABOUT DRIZZT]

Why Drizzt is one tough cookie:
Basically Drizzt is an army of one. He has VERY high magic resistance so spells are useless against him. He has very good AC so you almost need critical hits just to damage him. He is extremely quick on his feet so he can run yer arse down. He has a lot of attacks per round. He almost never misses. And he does a ton of damage. His only flaw is in his AI.

You will only meet Drizzt the one time. He is on his way back to Icewind Dale (his home) but has just been ambushed by a bunch of Gnolls when you see him. After he kills all the Gnolls, with or without your help, he will leave forever.

knoj 02-21-2002 12:00 AM

hhhmmm... thats quite interesting....

i wonder who would win, Drizzt or Elminster???

or maybe they are childhood friends and would refuse to fight each other???

Mortis 02-21-2002 05:08 PM

Prob Drizzt as he wud run in an hack him to pieces before Eliminster cud get off a magic missile

knoj 02-21-2002 06:27 PM

true...true...

but what is elminster??

a thousand years old??

he might have spells or tricks that the sword coast has never even witnessed...but even if he doesn't, i'm sure that his knowledge is so vast that he could keep pumpin off an almost endless amount of spells.

oh well...who knows?

Rolper 02-21-2002 06:35 PM

'OL Driz has a very nice set of +4 Chain mail... but only if you do'em in.
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The cleric conjured up lots of skeletons and one of my guys used the "ring of animal charm" to enlist a couple of bears, hasted the group and then sat back and pelted with range weapons.
Buying back rep points at any temple is cheaper than buying armour or weapons.

[ 02-21-2002: Message edited by: Rolper ]</p>

knoj 02-21-2002 08:26 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>originally posted by: Rolper
'OL Driz has a very nice set of +4 Chain mail... but only if you do'em in.<hr></blockquote>

did you import your character to BG2?

and if so, did you experience any conseqences from killin drizzt back in BG1?

if not, do you know what the conseqences are?

SixOfSpades 02-21-2002 10:28 PM

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If you killed Drizzt in BG1 (or even pickpocketed him, I believe), the game knows it.

You WILL meet Drizzt about 2/3 of the way through the plot of BG2. If you were nice in BG1 and helped him kill the gnolls, your conversation will be amiable, although you DO have the option to challenge him to a fight. If you killed him in BG1, he will remember you, and you must either back down and apologize, or fight him. He's not alone this time, and you have no chance to try some cheesy AI trick, or even cast buffing spells beforehand. It's strictly one party against another.

P.S. Even if you win, the gear isn't that great, and you can't even keep it.

knoj 02-21-2002 11:49 PM

thanks!

that's what i wanted to know.

i guess i would have to try and kill him and his lackeys a few times, and if that didn't work out then i would revert to being a coward... and apologize.

Rikter 02-22-2002 12:24 PM

I made nice with Drizzt, 'cause I've read the
Icewind Dale books and had a pretty good idea how a fight
would go. But my friend had this weaselly trick -
he saved the game, and pickpocketed both of Drizzt's
swords.

Then the whole party piled onto him, and it turns out
Drizzt isn't so tough under Marquis of Queensbury rules.

Dirty pool, but it might help those of you who just
can't stand to leave a map without killing everything on it [img]smile.gif[/img]

Rikter

Lavindathar 02-22-2002 02:09 PM

<font color="cyan">SOS, you should have posted that in PM...IMPO.

Also, can I just say its really nice when someone asks for you by name in a thread title...</font>

knoj 02-22-2002 03:25 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Also, can I just say its really nice when someone asks for you by name in a thread title...<hr></blockquote>

well....

you seemed to be the only one on the forum at that time.

and i know that it looks a little strange, i even worry how some may interpret it...

so i want you all to know that I DO have a girlfriend....

[ 02-22-2002: Message edited by: knoj ]</p>

Lavindathar 02-22-2002 07:29 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by knoj:


well....

you seemed to be the only one on the forum at that time.

and i know that it looks a little strange, i even worry how some may interpret it...

so i want you all to know that I DO have a girlfriend....

[ 02-22-2002: Message edited by: knoj ]
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<font color="cyan">It's ok dude, most people on the IW know I have a gf called Stacey of 11months...</font>

Darkman 02-23-2002 03:06 PM

[MORE DRIZZT SPOILERS [img]smile.gif[/img] ]

For anyone who's interested, here are Drizzt's stats according to Infinity Explorer:

Drizzt
Male
Chaotic Good
Elf
Level 16 [Ranger I would assume, although it lists him as "Innocent"]
HP 92
AC -10
THACO 0
# of attacks 10
Lore 16
XP val. 12,000
STR 13
DEX 20
CON 15
INT 17
WIS 17
CHA 14
Mag res. 98%
Crush res. 30%
Slash res. 30%
Pierce res. 30%
Missile res. 30%
Saving throws: 1/3/3/4/5

Items:
Boots of Speed
Mithril Chain Mail +4
Scimtar +3, Frostband
Scimtar +5, Defender
Boots of Speed[listed twice, could be why he's really fast ;) ]
Helmet

Although if you kill him you will not get the Boots of Speed, nor the helmet.

[ 02-23-2002: Message edited by: Darkman ]</p>

SixOfSpades 02-23-2002 06:01 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Lavindathar:
<font color="cyan">SOS, you should have posted that in PM...IMPO.
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Yeah, I thought about it, but this thread has so many SPOILER tags in it already I just didn't bother.

Drizzt's Boots of Speed and helmet are designated as 'non-removable,' so you'll never be able to get them, even from his corpse. Why BioWare thought he needed TWO pairs is beyond me. Where would he even put the second pair? (Hey, maybe they're on his hands, which is why he has 10 attacks per round?.....nah) Non-removable items are used when BioWare wanted to give certain people certain permanent attributes (such as Blur) without gamers being able to take those items and use 'em themselves.

knoj 02-23-2002 06:20 PM

NICE WORK Darkman!!

have you ever considered...data entry as a career choice?

no, i'm only kidding.

ahh...unless you already are a...data enterer person.

ahh - nevermind!

[ 02-23-2002: Message edited by: knoj ]</p>

Lavindathar 02-23-2002 07:18 PM

<font color="cyan">SOS, its ok.I dint read it, as I don't/do not know what happens/want to know what happens.

And you need to close a font tag in your msg, that overlapped from the quote.</font>

SoaS 02-23-2002 07:39 PM

I did, made him mad, he fought the gnolls, I concentrated on him, he fights the Gnolls first, so he'll kind of ignore you, lash out with everything you have, to'ally EVERYTHING.
Summon, cast, whatever, you need to bring him down before you run out of gnolls, if you manage to have downed him enough, you probably can take him c.a. Sarevok level.

Lavindathar 02-23-2002 07:41 PM

<font color="cyan">Cheers, guess I have to believe you!!

Does anyone know of an article on the web concering this subject?</font>


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