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Vedran 10-27-2002 09:35 AM

I wouldn't recommend a Sorcerer as well. It is hard to pick spells if you don't know how they work.
Take Cavalier. Powerful, many resistances.

Alson 10-27-2002 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Jim:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Wisdom is of no real importance.
Other than providing some bonus dialog and a bonus to lore, WIS affects you characters mental saving throws (i.e. domination, charm, confusion etc and so it's important)</font>[/QUOTE]Actually, I am 99% sure that the Mental saving throws bonus wasn't implemented, due to BioWare's tight schedule.

True_Moose 10-27-2002 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by Alson:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jim:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Wisdom is of no real importance.

Other than providing some bonus dialog and a bonus to lore, WIS affects you characters mental saving throws (i.e. domination, charm, confusion etc and so it's important)</font>[/QUOTE]Actually, I am 99% sure that the Mental saving throws bonus wasn't implemented, due to BioWare's tight schedule.</font>[/QUOTE]It was. That's why you find Minsc constantly running away and whatnot, and why it's no good to put someone with like 6 WIS against Mind Flayers. ;)

Vohnkar 10-27-2002 12:14 PM

Thanks for all the replies guys. Thanks a bunch Indema for the lenghty writing on fighters. I guess what i have to do now is decide if i want to be a fighter or mage.

True_Moose 10-27-2002 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Vohnkar:
Thanks for all the replies guys. Thanks a bunch Indema for the lenghty writing on fighters. I guess what i have to do now is decide if i want to be a fighter or mage.
Or do both! A dual class kensai->mage or a multi-class fighter/mage is one of the most powerful combos in the game.

Just wanted to make your decision process that much more complex. ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Dundee Slaytern 10-27-2002 12:42 PM

Mages can be fun if you enjoy spellcasting more than physical combat. I will not recommend a person to be a Mage if he/she is of the type that prefers to hack and slash. Shadows of Amn has 183 arcane spells, and Throne of Bhaal brings in 3 new spells plus 3 special wild spells. Most of these spells will prove to be useless to you, and it is up to you to decide what is good and what is bad. In addition, spells are broken down into several schools of magic.

Unless you are following some sort of guide, it will be best to experiment with all the spells. So a General Mage is usually considered the beginner's Mage. However, there are several General Mages in the actual game itself, and you can use them to conduct your experiments.

Specialist Mages can be considered the next step. They get to have one more spell slot per spell level which may not seem much, but you will appreciate it as you plod along in the game. The only disadvantage of Specialist Mages is that they have an opposition school from which they cannot learn their spells.

The top two chosen Specialist Mages are the Conjurer and the Necromancer. First and second choice respectively. The Conjurer's opposition school is Divination, which is a joke as there are barely any Divination spells in the game, so you do not really feel the loss. To make things worse, the top two useful Divination spells, Identify and True Sight, are both easily replaceable with items.

Necromancers are mainly chosen for the cool factor. [img]graemlins/cool.gif[/img] Screaming, "I am Quibby, the mighty Necromancer!" is more intimidating than, "I am Quibby, the mighty Diviner!"

Jesting aside, people who choose Necromancers tend to be very offensive people( double meaning not intended) and have no use for Illusion spells, although Alson and I will debate that. ;) :D Me? I will choose the Necromancer anyday, simply because I think they are the coolest of all the Specialist Mages.

The last step is the Sorcerer. By now, you should have reached a certain level of your understanding of spells and how they work in the game. A Sorcerer can only select five spells per spell level, so choose wisely, for there is no going back. I usually recommend people to prepare a spell list beforehand, so that they do not get indecisive during level ups.

Kaltia 10-27-2002 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Necromancers are mainly chosen for the cool factor. [img]graemlins/cool.gif[/img] Screaming, "I am Quibby, the mighty Necromancer!" is more intimidating than, "I am Quibby, the mighty Diviner!"
i think with a name like Quibby it doesn't really matter what class you are, does it... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Alson 10-27-2002 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by True_Moose:
It was. That's why you find Minsc constantly running away and whatnot, and why it's no good to put someone with like 6 WIS against Mind Flayers. ;)
Well, i just digged a little deeper.
It doesn't. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

That's probably how it is in PnP, but it certainly doesn't works like that in BG2. Barring Roleplaying considerations aside, WIS is only useful for bonus spells and (Limited) Wish spells. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Oh, and Misnc is being slaughtered by the Illithids due to his low INT, not WIS. ;)

Alson 10-27-2002 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Unless you are following some sort of guide ~~
Guide? What guide?
Ahh! you mean the BG2 Spell Reference, right? :D

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Jesting aside, people who choose Necromancers tend to be very offensive people( double meaning not intended) and have no use for Illusion spells, although Alson and I will debate that. ;) :D
We sure will. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Illusion spells are the most (ab)useful spells in the game, bar none.

Alson 10-27-2002 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by Kaltia:
i think with a name like Quibby it doesn't really matter what class you are, does it... [img]tongue.gif[/img]
LOL! :D
Well said, Kaltia!

My name is Pansy, and i'm the meanest Invoker in the Realms! :D


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