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Old 07-15-2002, 01:36 AM   #1
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So I woke up this morning and before going out and demolishing the rest of my deck (carpenter ants and rot) I read this article.
http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/insig...262164,00.html

I was appalled (I mean even more so than I would have been had this not been the case) to find that this sort of imprisonment extends to citizens as well as illegal imigrants. What gives? Don't we, here in the US, have a constitution or something? I go to protests everyonce in a while. I don't want to be tossed into jail for owning a gas mask or holding a sign. Now, I can be.

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Old 07-15-2002, 03:23 AM   #2
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They've been wanting to do this since his father was in office...it was all just a matter of time.
If this country has any sense and its not too late already, we should make sure we get Jr. out of office the next election.
 
Old 07-15-2002, 04:13 AM   #3
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Now were is Oswald when we need him?
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Old 07-15-2002, 04:21 AM   #4
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You folks might like to look at this, too.
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Old 07-15-2002, 05:05 AM   #5
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America - land of the free
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Old 07-15-2002, 06:01 AM   #6
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America - land of the free
Yeah, and soon to be: land of the not so very free.
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Old 07-15-2002, 06:13 AM   #7
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Yep, since 9/11 we are expected to give up a lot for our safety. The questions are:

1)What freedoms would you be willing to part with to be safe?
2)Do you think it would make a difference? If some group wants to inflict harm, won't they be able to do so no matter how much you try to protect yourself?
3)Will we get the freedoms we lost when (if) the "War" is over?
4)Will we get our freedoms back when the administration changes?

Tough questions that we all need to think about and we all desperately need answered.

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Old 07-15-2002, 06:29 AM   #8
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Yep, since 9/11 we are expected to give up a lot for our safety. The questions are:

1)What freedoms would you be willing to part with to be safe?
2)Do you think it would make a difference? If some group wants to inflict harm, won't they be able to do so no matter how much you try to protect yourself?
3)Will we get the freedoms we lost when (if) the "War" is over?
4)Will we get our freedoms back when the administration changes?

Tough questions that we all need to think about and we all desperately need answered.

Mark
One thing dude, there will always be terrorists, take out Bin Laden, and 5 new ones will take his place. So therefore the war on terrorisme is a never ending war, and also one that can never be won !
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Old 07-15-2002, 08:39 AM   #9
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There's an answer to terrorism and war, but it's (widely regarded today as) a dirty four-letter word...

Starting with the letter 'L'...
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Old 07-15-2002, 09:12 AM   #10
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There's an answer to terrorism and war, but it's (widely regarded today as) a dirty four-letter word...

Starting with the letter 'L'...
Love ??????
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