Final Battle *SPOILERS*

Lord Smite · 06-29-2003, 03:43 PM

SPOILERS--DO NOT READ THIS THREAD UNLESS YOU HAVE BEATEN OR ARE ATTEMPTING IMPROVED IRENICUS!!!
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I need help with this fight. My character is a solo lvl 40 h/o barbarian. Im playing with all the usual mods, difficulty on insane, etc... I am outfitted with the shadow dragon armor, helm of balduran (or vhailors), rings of gaxx and preservation, cloaks of prot +2 or mirroring, improved boots of avoidance/speed. My choice weapons are crom faeyr, soul reaver, vorpal, impaler, dragons breath halberd, and throwing spear +3. My important HLA's are 8 GWW(1 mWW), 4 CS, 3 Hardiness, smite. 10 rages, slayer/ravager change.

So far a scroll of magic prot. with the ravager using smite and GWW HLAs allows me to kill off sarevok and the dragon. After changing back to human form I can easily dispatch the orb and the other beholders, wyverns, and liches. I keep the crom faeyr and cloak of mirroring by dropping them before securing the last tear.

The problem lies here. I can find no way to do any damage to the sword of greed, aside from the Ring of Ram, which only does a minimal amount. I know certain spells can harm it, but being a barbarian i do not have these. I can also find no way to damage to Irenicus, as he has seemingly endless prot from magic weapons (which he does, right?). The presence of the sword also makes it nearly impossible for me to focus on a method to kill him. Any ideas would be welcome.

Leslie · 06-29-2003, 03:47 PM

Necklace of Missiles is a way for a fighter to kill that annoying sword.
Maybe Ring of energy too.

Attack Jonny with non enchanted weapons (Tuigan + normal arrows, Slings + normal bullets or even normal flails, ...)

Xen · 06-29-2003, 03:48 PM

The ONLY way to kill the sword is by magical damage. This means Abi Dalzim`s,Magic Missiles...

So you are stuck more or less.

Kudos goes to you that you come so far. But I think it is nearly immposibel to kill all those things with a solo Barbarian.

Good luck to you!

Edit:if you don`t mind some cheese,you can recharge Ring of The Ram by putting into Bag Of Holding and taking it back out.

[ 06-29-2003, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: Xen ]

Leslie · 06-29-2003, 03:50 PM

Oh, I forgot. You can kill the sword with the weapon it has taken from you.

Lord Smite · 06-29-2003, 04:20 PM

I dont mind cheese, being that the game itself uses cheese. Like the improved dragons tactic of "corner the puny human and wing buffet till it dies" is CHEESE. A floating sword that I cannot break in half is CHEESE. etc...
Ill try it, but I might need to import the NoM and the RoE. Guess i didnt bother to keep those, didnt think id need them

. I was hoping i wouldn't have to import, so ill try the recharge bug first.

If you mean the crom faeyr, it doesnt do any damage to it, ive tried. I drop it before i start the battle, so they cant take it from me, then pick it up as soon as the Irenicus and his fragments teleport away. Maybe your talking about this 3rd item that i read about in the hint files for the tactics mod "Sanchuudoku". Never heard of it or found it myself.

Alson · 06-29-2003, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leslie:
Oh, I forgot. You can kill the sword with the weapon it has taken from you.

Exactly. Cheesily dropping Sanchuudoku on the floor before opening the doors is by far the easiest method for a solo fighter-type to deal with Greed.

Xen · 06-29-2003, 04:24 PM

If you ever have Celestial Fury... You will not be able to find Sanchuudoku. Sanchuudoku will find you.

Lord Smite · 06-29-2003, 04:42 PM

Aaahhh. That sword. Yeah i, um, accidently must have skipped over that encounter (heeeeeelllpp me mommy!).

Leslie you mentioned using normal weapons on Jon. Any normal weapon?, because i recall trying that tactic on mages with PfMW and it didnt work. Maybe im wrong though

Leslie · 06-29-2003, 05:31 PM

It works, you just have to get through Stoneskin. That's why nothing happens for a few rounds. Do you have feedback enabled ?

Another nice tactic is to use Firetooth Crossbow with normal bolts. They go through PFMW but also inlict fire damage.

[ 06-29-2003, 05:31 PM: Message edited by: Leslie ]

Lord Smite · 06-29-2003, 05:38 PM

I wonder. Ive noticed the vorpal sword works wonders on mages with stoneskin. If i were to score a lucky hit on ol jonny? Or would his PfMW block the insta-slaying ability. We shall see.

06-29-2003, 03:47 PM	#2
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 52 Posts: 737	Necklace of Missiles is a way for a fighter to kill that annoying sword. Maybe Ring of energy too. Attack Jonny with non enchanted weapons (Tuigan + normal arrows, Slings + normal bullets or even normal flails, ...) __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

06-29-2003, 03:50 PM	#4
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 52 Posts: 737	Oh, I forgot. You can kill the sword with the weapon it has taken from you. __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

06-29-2003, 05:31 PM	#9
Leslie Baaz Draconian Join Date: February 28, 2003 Location: SLO Age: 52 Posts: 737	It works, you just have to get through Stoneskin. That's why nothing happens for a few rounds. Do you have feedback enabled ? Another nice tactic is to use Firetooth Crossbow with normal bolts. They go through PFMW but also inlict fire damage. [ 06-29-2003, 05:31 PM: Message edited by: Leslie ] __________________ I grow tired of shouting battle cries when fighting this mage. Boo will finish his eyeballs once and for all, so he does not rise again. Evil, meet my sword! SWORD, MEET EVIL!<br />- Minsc

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06-29-2003, 03:43 PM	#1
Lord Smite Dungeon Master Join Date: January 20, 2003 Location: PA Age: 41 Posts: 67	SPOILERS--DO NOT READ THIS THREAD UNLESS YOU HAVE BEATEN OR ARE ATTEMPTING IMPROVED IRENICUS!!! ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` I need help with this fight. My character is a solo lvl 40 h/o barbarian. Im playing with all the usual mods, difficulty on insane, etc... I am outfitted with the shadow dragon armor, helm of balduran (or vhailors), rings of gaxx and preservation, cloaks of prot +2 or mirroring, improved boots of avoidance/speed. My choice weapons are crom faeyr, soul reaver, vorpal, impaler, dragons breath halberd, and throwing spear +3. My important HLA's are 8 GWW(1 mWW), 4 CS, 3 Hardiness, smite. 10 rages, slayer/ravager change. So far a scroll of magic prot. with the ravager using smite and GWW HLAs allows me to kill off sarevok and the dragon. After changing back to human form I can easily dispatch the orb and the other beholders, wyverns, and liches. I keep the crom faeyr and cloak of mirroring by dropping them before securing the last tear. The problem lies here. I can find no way to do any damage to the sword of greed, aside from the Ring of Ram, which only does a minimal amount. I know certain spells can harm it, but being a barbarian i do not have these. I can also find no way to damage to Irenicus, as he has seemingly endless prot from magic weapons (which he does, right?). The presence of the sword also makes it nearly impossible for me to focus on a method to kill him. Any ideas would be welcome.

06-29-2003, 03:48 PM	#3
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 36 Posts: 8,554	The ONLY way to kill the sword is by magical damage. This means Abi Dalzim`s,Magic Missiles... So you are stuck more or less. Kudos goes to you that you come so far. But I think it is nearly immposibel to kill all those things with a solo Barbarian. Good luck to you! Edit:if you don`t mind some cheese,you can recharge Ring of The Ram by putting into Bag Of Holding and taking it back out. [ 06-29-2003, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: Xen ]

06-29-2003, 04:20 PM	#5
Lord Smite Dungeon Master Join Date: January 20, 2003 Location: PA Age: 41 Posts: 67	I dont mind cheese, being that the game itself uses cheese. Like the improved dragons tactic of "corner the puny human and wing buffet till it dies" is CHEESE. A floating sword that I cannot break in half is CHEESE. etc... Ill try it, but I might need to import the NoM and the RoE. Guess i didnt bother to keep those, didnt think id need them . I was hoping i wouldn't have to import, so ill try the recharge bug first. If you mean the crom faeyr, it doesnt do any damage to it, ive tried. I drop it before i start the battle, so they cant take it from me, then pick it up as soon as the Irenicus and his fragments teleport away. Maybe your talking about this 3rd item that i read about in the hint files for the tactics mod "Sanchuudoku". Never heard of it or found it myself.

06-29-2003, 04:24 PM	#7
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 36 Posts: 8,554	If you ever have Celestial Fury... You will not be able to find Sanchuudoku. Sanchuudoku will find you.

06-29-2003, 04:42 PM	#8
Lord Smite Dungeon Master Join Date: January 20, 2003 Location: PA Age: 41 Posts: 67	Aaahhh. That sword. Yeah i, um, accidently must have skipped over that encounter (heeeeeelllpp me mommy!). Leslie you mentioned using normal weapons on Jon. Any normal weapon?, because i recall trying that tactic on mages with PfMW and it didnt work. Maybe im wrong though

06-29-2003, 05:38 PM	#10
Lord Smite Dungeon Master Join Date: January 20, 2003 Location: PA Age: 41 Posts: 67	I wonder. Ive noticed the vorpal sword works wonders on mages with stoneskin. If i were to score a lucky hit on ol jonny? Or would his PfMW block the insta-slaying ability. We shall see.

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