someone please explain speedfactor to me

MrSmith · 01-27-2003, 05:33 PM

at first i thought that a weapon's speed factor meant that the lower the number the more often you can attack with it (which would make daggers and short swords the best weapons in the game), but how does that work with your character's number of attacks?

is speedfactor only used when determining who gets to hit first in a round? if that is the case, it doesn't seem that important.

but this brings me to another arguement of why weapons are so screwed up in DandD. (like a staff being better than a spear, or a warhammer being less damaging than a club, i just dont get it.)

but anyway, what does speedfactor mean?

Dace De'Briago · 01-27-2003, 05:55 PM

Weapon speedfactor only applies to the first attack by a character in a round.

The lower the speed factor, the faster the attack.

e.g. speedfactor 1 weapon strikes before speed factor 5 weapon.

After the first strike, the attacks are simply alternated with the faster weapon stiking first, slowest second etc etc.

It's not vitally important.

Rataxes · 01-27-2003, 05:59 PM

Speed factor is critical if you sometimes make use of the Hit'n'run tactic to take out hard-hitting, but slow enemies, such as Greater Mummies, Mindflayers etc, etc.

rhapsody407 · 01-27-2003, 06:43 PM

what's with the boots of speed...for some reason my char doesn't even roll for 2/3 times, even though he has the attack animation.

Rataxes · 01-27-2003, 06:51 PM

Any character will always make

5 attack animations per round when Unhasted
6 attack animations per round when Hasted
10 attack animations per round when Improved Hasted

So it doesn't matter if you only really have 2 attacks per round when unhasted, the animation will still display five times.

wellard · 01-27-2003, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dace De'Briago:
Weapon speedfactor only applies to the first attack by a character in a round.

The lower the speed factor, the faster the attack.

e.g. speedfactor 1 weapon strikes before speed factor 5 weapon.

After the first strike, the attacks are simply alternated with the faster weapon stiking first, slowest second etc etc.

It's not vitally important.

DAMN!
so I have being useing underpowered crossbows because they had a lower speed factor for all this time for NO reason

AAAAARRRRGHHH [img]graemlins/awcrap.gif[/img]

MrSmith · 01-27-2003, 08:56 PM

heh your not the only one wellard.

rhapsody407 · 01-27-2003, 09:09 PM

the boots of speed HASTE you though...you should have more attacks, is this a bug?

oh....yes it is confirmed..i downloaded a fix for it from the baldurdash site

Rataxes · 01-28-2003, 02:42 AM

Boots of speed aren't even supposed to put the haste effect on you. In BG1 they only increased movement rate, and still allowed you to be affected by haste, giving you quadruple movement speed, which I believe was meant to be the case in BG2 as well. That's fixed in the Baldurash patch as you said though.

Grojlach · 01-28-2003, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rataxes:
Boots of speed aren't even supposed to put the haste effect on you. In BG1 they only increased movement rate, and still allowed you to be affected by haste, giving you quadruple movement speed, which I believe was meant to be the case in BG2 as well. That's fixed in the Baldurash patch as you said though.

And is fixed in IWD2 as well.

01-27-2003, 05:55 PM	#2
Dace De'Briago Silver Dragon Join Date: December 28, 2002 Location: Wales Age: 43 Posts: 1,617	Weapon speedfactor only applies to the first attack by a character in a round. The lower the speed factor, the faster the attack. e.g. speedfactor 1 weapon strikes before speed factor 5 weapon. After the first strike, the attacks are simply alternated with the faster weapon stiking first, slowest second etc etc. It's not vitally important. __________________ Warning: Powergamer

01-27-2003, 05:59 PM	#3
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 38 Posts: 1,359	Speed factor is critical if you sometimes make use of the Hit'n'run tactic to take out hard-hitting, but slow enemies, such as Greater Mummies, Mindflayers etc, etc. __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

01-27-2003, 06:51 PM	#5
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 38 Posts: 1,359	Any character will always make 5 attack animations per round when Unhasted 6 attack animations per round when Hasted 10 attack animations per round when Improved Hasted So it doesn't matter if you only really have 2 attacks per round when unhasted, the animation will still display five times. __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

01-28-2003, 02:42 AM	#9
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 38 Posts: 1,359	Boots of speed aren't even supposed to put the haste effect on you. In BG1 they only increased movement rate, and still allowed you to be affected by haste, giving you quadruple movement speed, which I believe was meant to be the case in BG2 as well. That's fixed in the Baldurash patch as you said though. __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

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01-27-2003, 05:33 PM	#1
MrSmith Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 14, 2003 Location: here Age: 45 Posts: 10	at first i thought that a weapon's speed factor meant that the lower the number the more often you can attack with it (which would make daggers and short swords the best weapons in the game), but how does that work with your character's number of attacks? is speedfactor only used when determining who gets to hit first in a round? if that is the case, it doesn't seem that important. but this brings me to another arguement of why weapons are so screwed up in DandD. (like a staff being better than a spear, or a warhammer being less damaging than a club, i just dont get it.) but anyway, what does speedfactor mean?

01-27-2003, 06:43 PM	#4
rhapsody407 Manshoon Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: massachusettes Age: 37 Posts: 186	what's with the boots of speed...for some reason my char doesn't even roll for 2/3 times, even though he has the attack animation.

01-27-2003, 08:56 PM	#7
MrSmith Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 14, 2003 Location: here Age: 45 Posts: 10	heh your not the only one wellard.

01-27-2003, 09:09 PM	#8
rhapsody407 Manshoon Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: massachusettes Age: 37 Posts: 186	the boots of speed HASTE you though...you should have more attacks, is this a bug? oh....yes it is confirmed..i downloaded a fix for it from the baldurdash site

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