I always wondered...

johnny · 12-01-2003, 08:15 AM

How a team that wins the NATIONAL basketball association can claim the title of WORLD champion. Or the winner of the NATIONAL football league, or the NATIONAL hockey league. Can anyone explain that to a simple peasant like me ?

And what about the MLS ? If, let's say the Chicago Fire, wins the championship, are they considered WORLD champs ?

Leonis · 12-01-2003, 08:31 AM

The USA is The World johnny. You should know that by now...

johnny · 12-01-2003, 08:33 AM

Surely that can't be the reason ?

SomeGuy · 12-01-2003, 08:36 AM

I've sometimes wondered that myself. Maybe because it would sound funny is they said the U.S. champions? Maybe because they have no one else to play in the world or they think so? I dunno. Also, why do they called it the "World Series" in baseball, if it's only played in America?

johnny · 12-01-2003, 08:40 AM

Yeah, but "national champs" doesn't sound that odd, does it ? After all, that's all it is, a national championship. Of course in hockey, baseball, and basketball are Canadian teams, but it's still only the North American continent.

Bungleau · 12-01-2003, 09:11 AM

Well, the World Series was so named because it originally decide which of the two US champs was the winner... and "Real championship series" didn't feel like it would sell a lot of ... baseball [img]smile.gif[/img]

Check here for more details.

There is an old myth that the New York World was responsible for its naming, but that's not quite true.

Leonis · 12-01-2003, 09:21 AM

Hmmm. Ever noticed that there's only two letters different between "New York" and "New Yorick"?

Draw your own conclusions....

Perhaps he's aiming for Champion of the World? He's a bit of a champion, my friend.

Stratos · 12-01-2003, 10:38 AM

Well, we have the Mr. Universe contest as well and only humans participate in that one, no Martians, Uranians or Grelzonkians.

[ 12-01-2003, 10:40 AM: Message edited by: Stratos ]

Lady Blue03 · 12-01-2003, 11:45 AM

But in the important sport, football, there are no world champions, only the Super Bowl winners

Maelakin · 12-01-2003, 12:19 PM

During the time period where these names were born, America was an isolationist country. My guess would be that the rest of the world didn’t matter to America at that time, and as a result, Americans believed they were the world.

So a team winning the “national” championship becomes a “world” champion in the eyes of the isolationist.

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johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	How a team that wins the NATIONAL basketball association can claim the title of WORLD champion. Or the winner of the NATIONAL football league, or the NATIONAL hockey league. Can anyone explain that to a simple peasant like me ? And what about the MLS ? If, let's say the Chicago Fire, wins the championship, are they considered WORLD champs ? __________________

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Leonis Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 6, 2001 Location: Somewhere on Earth - it changes often Posts: 1,292	The USA is The World johnny. You should know that by now... __________________ Better run through the jungle! Grrr...

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johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	Surely that can't be the reason ? __________________

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SomeGuy Unicorn Join Date: May 14, 2002 Location: Oklahoma, USA Age: 33 Posts: 4,238	I've sometimes wondered that myself. Maybe because it would sound funny is they said the U.S. champions? Maybe because they have no one else to play in the world or they think so? I dunno. Also, why do they called it the "World Series" in baseball, if it's only played in America? __________________ \"I firmly believe that any man\'s finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.\"<br />-Vince Lombardi

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johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	Yeah, but "national champs" doesn't sound that odd, does it ? After all, that's all it is, a national championship. Of course in hockey, baseball, and basketball are Canadian teams, but it's still only the North American continent. __________________

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Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Well, the World Series was so named because it originally decide which of the two US champs was the winner... and "Real championship series" didn't feel like it would sell a lot of ... baseball [img]smile.gif[/img] Check here for more details. There is an old myth that the New York World was responsible for its naming, but that's not quite true. __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

12-01-2003, 09:21 AM	#7
Leonis Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 6, 2001 Location: Somewhere on Earth - it changes often Posts: 1,292	Hmmm. Ever noticed that there's only two letters different between "New York" and "New Yorick"? Draw your own conclusions.... Perhaps he's aiming for Champion of the World? He's a bit of a champion, my friend. __________________ Better run through the jungle! Grrr...

12-01-2003, 10:38 AM	#8
Stratos Vampire Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 43 Posts: 3,888	Well, we have the Mr. Universe contest as well and only humans participate in that one, no Martians, Uranians or Grelzonkians. [ 12-01-2003, 10:40 AM: Message edited by: Stratos ] __________________ Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.

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Lady Blue03 Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: January 18, 2002 Age: 38 Posts: 4,557	But in the important sport, football, there are no world champions, only the Super Bowl winners __________________ Yep I'm still lurking!

12-01-2003, 12:19 PM	#10
Maelakin Drow Warrior Join Date: September 16, 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 47 Posts: 257	During the time period where these names were born, America was an isolationist country. My guess would be that the rest of the world didn’t matter to America at that time, and as a result, Americans believed they were the world. So a team winning the “national” championship becomes a “world” champion in the eyes of the isolationist.

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