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Old 08-29-2001, 05:34 AM   #21
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......ah, I was going to find rhymes and the other "dutch" things that have crept into the English language but I got bored of it

I started to think about this yesterday. Most of the English phrases that include the word Dutch come from the 17th century when Holland and Britain were at war. These are all perjorative. The stereotypical Dutchman at the time was seen to be miserable, stern and miserly and the idioms reflect this.

Most people know about 'going Dutch' or a 'Dutch treat' which you have to pay for yourself. In addition I can think of:

Dutch Uncle - a relative who is very stern
Dutch bill - an invoice without any details which shows only the total and which increases if the cost is challenged
Dutch Auction - where the bidding goes downwards
Dutch courage - which is temporary courage caused by alcohol
Dutch concert - in which each musician plays a different tune



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Old 08-29-2001, 05:37 AM   #22
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I started to think about this yesterday. Most of the English phrases that include the word Dutch come from the 17th century when Holland and Britain were at war. These are all perjorative. The stereotypical Dutchman at the time was seen to be miserable, stern and miserly and the idioms reflect this.

Most people know about 'going Dutch' or a 'Dutch treat' which you have to pay for yourself. In addition I can think of:

Dutch Uncle - a relative who is very stern
Dutch bill - an invoice without any details which shows only the total and which increases if the cost is challenged
Dutch Auction - where the bidding goes downwards
Dutch courage - which is temporary courage caused by alcohol
Dutch concert - in which each musician plays a different tune

Wow the English were really afraid of the dutch to make up these things



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Old 08-29-2001, 05:42 AM   #23
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Wow the English were really afraid of the dutch to make up these things

Oh yes - absolutely terrified, we still are. The Dutch were the last nation to invade England. In 1667 they sailed up the River Medway and sunk a lot of stuff and then blockaded the Thames.

Isn't there a Dutch phrase about using an 'English screwdriver' meaning to use a hammer on a screw?


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Old 08-29-2001, 05:44 AM   #24
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Oh yes - absolutely terrified, we still are. The Dutch were the last nation to invade England. In 1667 they sailed up the River Medway and sunk a lot of stuff and then blockaded the Thames.

Isn't there a Dutch phrase about using an 'English screwdriver' meaning to use a hammer on a screw?


The Dutch actually invaded Harwich, but to be honest they are welcome to it

Also there's "Dutch Doll" for a woman with too much makeup



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Old 08-29-2001, 06:14 AM   #25
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The Dutch actually invaded Harwich, but to be honest they are welcome to it

Also there's "Dutch Doll" for a woman with too much makeup

Rikard you should be proud! The english gave you your own name

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Old 08-29-2001, 07:17 AM   #26
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.. Rikard should be proud
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What?



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Old 08-29-2001, 07:23 AM   #28
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What?

Dutch Dolly, a woman who wears too much make up

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Old 08-29-2001, 07:32 AM   #29
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I know this has been done before but for all the newbies
  1. Never use the word "Dutch" in front of a Hollander. It reminds him too
    much of the word "Deutsch" which is a word for Germans and other things he
    doesn't like. A Dutchman is a Hollander or a Nederlander.
  2. Never ever try to speak Hollands even if you have lived in Holland for
    more than five years. Not only will it give you a splitting headache but also
    Hollanders won't understand a single word of what you are trying to say.
    Foreigners are expected to speak English or gibberish. Speaking gibberish they
    are easy prey for pickpockets since they can't make a report to the police.
  3. Also never try to eat "drop". Drop is a kind of licorice that only
    Hollanders can eat. It can be recognized by its colour: black. The taste is a
    cross between printer ink (blue) and earwax. Hollanders absolutely love it and
    eat kilos of the revolting stuff. There is a nationwide conspiracy to look at
    the faces of foreigners who are tricked into believing it is edible.
  4. Do not buy wooden shoes. They will look absolutely silly on you. Which is
    ofcourse the main reason for selling them to you in the first place. A
    Hollander himself wouldn't like to be found dead in them. (As a matter of
    fact, they wouldn't like to be found dead at all)
  5. Do not make holes in dikes. Behaviour like that is not only frowned upon
    but in certain cases can get you stoned to death with wooden shoes by an angry
    mob. You may feel free however to stick a finger in any dike you like. It'll
    get you a few good laughs from the natives.
  6. A Hollander is always right and he knows it. With this in the back of your
    mind it is easy to deal with most of them. If ever you get into an argument
    with a Hollander, tell him that he is absolutely right and that you see the
    error of your ways. This will drive him absolutely crazy: Since you are a
    foreigner you can't be right. You agree with him. Therefore he also cannot be
    right. Impossible! He is a Hollander. But.. why.. he.. At this point you may
    want to stand back and watch him try to strangle himself with a tulip.
  7. Windmills are unavoidable.
  8. It is not necessary to show an interest in tulips, windmills, wooden shoes
    or cheese. Every Hollander knows that you came for the softdrugs or the
    Amsterdam red light district, the Walletjes. Both are available in a large
    quantity and are easy to find. Ask any Hollander age six or older or any
    French tourist (see items 19 & 20)
  9. Avoid fans of soccer games at all cost. Soccer in Holland is merely an
    excuse used for bashing in the brains of just about everyone else, including
    yours, after the game is won. ...Or lost...Or if it is a draw. It is also very
    unwise to stand near a policeman during these festivities. (see item 10) Also,
    whenever there's a Hollander around: "Don't mention the '74 final!". You'll
    end up in an ongoing discussion about how well the Orange team played and how
    marvellous it is that a small country like Holland has such a good team and
    blah-de-blah-de-blah.
  10. Policemen in Holland may be used for throwing things at. If you feel like
    hitting someone or something, use a policeman. No Hollander will pay any
    attention if you decide to hit, maim, or kick a policeman in the groin.
    Policemen represent authority and no Hollander recognizes any authority higher
    than himself. You may also note that a lot of Hollandse policemen are in fact
    foreigners tricked into taking the job.
  11. Hollanders do not like to spend money, they'd sooner cut off their own
    ears. A Hollander will become a friend for life if you give him something for
    free. (Note: Social diseases are an exception) LOL This might explain the
    success of MacDonald's in Holland. The story that copper wire is an invention
    of two Hollanders fighting over a found cent is absolutely true.
  12. Holland is small. There is a rumour that Holland is put inside during
    rainstorms. Not true, but that is mainly because it rains about 365 days each
    year. This might also explain those wooden shoes: They float. Yes, Holland is
    small and Hollanders are proud of it. They will grab every opportunity to
    point out to you that the nation has accomplished great things, despite of it
    being so small. A suitable answer to this swank is the Hollander's
    imperialistic past. Wich brings us -rather nicely- to item 13.
  13. If you wish to insult a Hollander -and sooner or later you will- simply
    tell him you don't think he is a pacifist. Now immediately start running for
    your life. He'll want to prove to you that he is a peace loving person and he
    won't stop proving this until your intestines are scattered all over the
    floor. However, mentioning a supposedly imperialistic past considering Surinam
    and/or Indonesia, will instantly reduce a Hollander to a pathetic, sniffing
    and crying child, begging for forgiveness.
  14. The Hollanders are supposed to be tolerant. They are not. They simply make
    too much money from the sale of soft- and hard-drugs, Malaysian women and
    pornography to foreigners to let an opportunity for making a good profit go
    by.
  15. The main form of public transportation in Holland is bikes. Feel free to
    take any bike of which you are able to pick the lock. Don't expect your own
    bike however to be where you left it three minutes earlier. The hunting season
    for bikes is open 365 days a year. Have fun.
  16. At nearly every meal in Holland you will find a small vicious looking
    blade with a slit in it. It is called a "kaasschaaf" and is used for taking
    very thin (the see-through kind) slices of the cheese. Yes, it is indeed an
    invention made by a Nederlander. Never cut cheese with a knife, you'll make an
    utter fool of yourself. Another peculiar dinner tool is the "flessenlikker",
    which literally means "bottle-licker", but which is best translated by
    "yoghurt-scraper". Note that this tool is not meant to get rid of an itchy
    back or for your nightly escapades. It's designed to clean out bottles of
    yoghurt or "vla" which is a sort of custard. The Nederlanders wants to use
    absolutely every millilitre of the yoghurt or 'vla' he bought. He paid for all
    of it and he'll jolly well eat all of it.
  17. At the time of this writing, the Hollandse economy is doing quite well.
    The Hollanders say that this is the result of extensive negotiating between
    parties like the unions, the employers and the government. They even have a
    name for this: The polder model. Foreigners are made to believe that this
    polder model is the key to a healthy economy and if others should follow this
    polder model, their economy's will also improve dramatically. This is utter
    nonsense. Hollanders just love to talk and talk and talk. Calling al this
    talking negotiations only gives them a sense of doing something useful. Talk
    is not cheap in Holland.
  18. Hollanders like to drown fried potato's in litres of mayonnaise and put it
    in small paper bags. This is called "een patatje met". One of these bags can
    sustain life over an indefinite period. Not everyone agrees if it is the sort
    of life worth living. Some foreigners however are reported to have actually
    liked eating it.
  19. Hollanders have a special and unique service for -mainly- French tourists.
    As soon as they cross the border between Belgium and Holland, they are
    welcomed enthusiastically by young men in fast cars. These young people wish
    to point out to the French tourist where the more interesting touristy places
    in Holland can be found. Strangely enough they always seem to end up in a
    coffee shop (see item 20). Funny people those French.
  20. There is a fast and guaranteed way of making a complete fool of yourself
    in Holland: Enter a coffee shop and ask for a cappuccino. Coffee shops do not
    -remember this- do not sell coffee. You can however get a good number of other
    stimulating drugs there. For some unknown reason coffee shops are extremely
    popular with French tourists.
  21. A Fries is a semi-detached sort of Nederlander, living in the north of the
    country in a province all for himself. He is fond of frozen water, Beerenburg
    (which is a form of euthanasia with alcohol) and continuously pointing out to
    non-Fries Hollanders that they are -indeed- not Fries. The rest of the
    Hollanders look upon this behaviour with the good natured ambivalent feelings
    that parents have for an obstinate child.
  22. On the matter of what books to buy before you come to Holland, I can
    recommend the following: The complete works of William Shakespeare or a
    leather-bound volume of the Encyclopaedia Britannica (the 1913 copy: Fr to
    He). In my experience these two books have just about the right weight for
    clubbing a pushy drug dealer or pimp on the head without leaving any marks.
    After hitting you might want to drop the book you were carrying at that moment
    for a more speedy retreat. Bring plenty of books.
  23. Do not bother to hire a car. Not only can you steal more bikes than you
    will need but car-traffic in Holland is not something you will enjoy. In the
    rest of the world traffic jams are measured in miles or kilometres,
    Nederlandse traffic jams are measured in weeks. As a matter of fact, the more
    persistent traffic-jams are well worth a touristic visit. The sight of
    starving people in an expensive Mercedes can be quite uplifting if you are of
    a philosophic nature. You may want to bring some pieces of bread with you to
    throw through open car windows. The resulting fights can often be worth
    watching.
  24. Contrary to popular belief, you may not bring your mother-in-law to
    Holland for do-it-yourself euthanasia. Tourists are warned not to take these
    matters into their own hands.
  25. Whether you are catholic, Muslim or worshipper of Urrrgl, god of all
    honest politicians, in Holland you are likely to run into a church, temple or
    oak-tree-and-virgin of your liking. Hollanders are supposed to be very
    tolerant of other believes, ways of life and religious convictions. They are
    not. The only reason for there being so many different churches, sects and
    cults is the fact that Hollanders disagree on just about anything. A Hollander
    is always right (see item 6) and anyone who thinks different than him can
    jolly well bugger off and start his own church.
  26. Holland is a kingdom. It has no king but a queen and her husband is no
    king but a prince. The queen doesn't rule the country -well, not much anyway-
    but she is very good at opening bridges, roads and visiting other countries.
    She is also very decorative at state banquets. Her son, the crown prince, will
    be king as soon as she stops queening (nice word eh?). Now his wife won't be a
    queen but she will be a princess because Nederland is much too small for a
    king and a queen at the same time. On April the 30th its Queen's Day, which is
    not the birthday of the queen, but the birthday of princess Juliana the
    queen's mother (who used to be the queen). It is no wonder that more and more
    Nederlanders wish to make Holland a republic. Queen's Day, by the way, has
    nothing to do with royal festivities. It's just a Hollander's excuse to drink
    large quantities of alcohol. On Queen's Day Hollanders also sell garbage in
    the streets.
  27. It might be wise to learn how to swim if you visit Holland. No, the dikes
    will hold, that is not the problem. The huge amount of ditches, moats, canals,
    rivers and brooks can however lead to mistakes. The shiny nice new asphalt
    road that you wish to drive your car on during a rainstorm, may in fact not be
    a road at all.
  28. The Hollandse art. Most Nederlandse painters get to be famous only after
    they have died. That is a very sensible arrangement from the publics point of
    view. Not only do you get large quantities of paintings -a man has got to eat,
    right?- but it also makes a nice investment for art-lovers. The painters
    themselves do not share this view at all but are unable to do anything about
    it. In at least one case the frustration has led to self-mutilation involving
    an ear.
  29. If one of your Hollandse friends invites you for a birthday party, prepare
    yourself for a unique experience. Unique, because it can only be compared to
    taking place on a wooden chair which has a sharp nail driven through the
    underside of the seat, and not being able to move for a month. More than one
    foreigner has been driven to the brink of insanity in just one evening. A
    Hollandse birthday party consists of sitting in a chair, talking to other
    Hollanders about your work, your car, foreigners and politics. You are
    expected to leave at 11 pm and you'll gladly do so.
  30. Do not get sick in Nederland. Over the last ten years, the famous
    Hollandse healthcare has been privatised. These days some operations, like
    open heart surgery, have a waiting list of more than six months. The doctors
    don't think that is a problem, "More than half of our patients for open heart
    surgery never even show up anyway" they say. Some Nederlandse patients who
    have become desperate, move to a country like Mozambique, Iraq or Pakistan
    where healthcare is infinitely better.
  31. Nederlanders leave their curtains open in the evening. This used to be so
    that the neighbours could always check if your family didn't gamble or drink
    alcohol. These days it is a precaution against junkies trying to steal the
    stereo from the family car, parked in front of the house. It has the fortunate
    side effect that you can watch Hollanders in their natural surroundings, in
    front of the television, watching soaps.
  32. Holland has more cities than only Amsterdam. ike ..erm. ..Well, it has!!
  33. Hollandse beer has made quite a reputation for itself over the years. Some
    people even drink it. Brewing is indeed one of the things Hollanders
    traditionaly do very well. Holland never used to be a country with anything
    more interesting to do than to drink oneself blind in new and interesting ways
    or make paintings. This made the beer industry very popular. Experts claim
    that once you have drank Hollandse beer like Heineken, Grolsch or Amstel, all
    other beers taste like the tapwater in a Rotterdam hotel.
  34. Hollandse tapwater is safe to drink. This is quite remarkable considering
    that most drinking water comes from poluted rivers like the Rhine. Plans to
    improve the quality of the riverwater, so that fish like salmon will return to
    Hollandse rivers to spawn, can count on strong resistance from the
    Nederlanders. They don't like the idea of animals having sex in their drinking
    water.

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