Moral Dilemna - Upper Dorn (Possible Spoiler)

Alaric · 06-24-2001, 02:54 PM

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I have reached the Tier of the Dead and noticed that there are several tombs that can be opened that contain treasure. My dilemna, would a party of good characters that is being lead by a Paladin and has a Dwarf, really loot the tombs of the dead?

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Duneswalker · 06-24-2001, 04:05 PM

You too huh? Yes in other areas, like the Vale of Shadows I could reconsile to the fact that these where centers of evil and that the items therein were destined for evil purposes and therefore it was my duty to liberate them.

Upper Dorn's Deep is differnet, these are not tombs of evil undead, nor is it a sanctuary for evil. These are the final resting places of dwarves, valant and good who died defending thier home AGAINST evil.

I had a real moral dilema too, I almost didn't touch anything, until I took a peek and say all blue (magic), then greed got me. There are some good items too.

So how do we honorable Paladins role play this one? Whenever I'm faced with a roleplaying aspect I can't resolve I try to fill in the gaps. Like saying to myself, "the noble drawves would WANT me to use thier items to fight the evil in thier land". Well, lame, yes, but how else does a Pally justify grave robbing?

Arquetal · 06-25-2001, 02:27 PM

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This flaming sword just called out to my fighter. It spoke the ancient words of wisdom and strenght so compulsively there was no stopping the fighter. My paladin just wasn't fast enough to stop my fighter who had already plunged his sword deep into Malchon's stomach, tearing the flesh to create a lethal gap.
The battle was fast and furious, but a dark feeling hovered over the paladin. Could standing by his party be the will of his God. Or would he be punished and spend the rest of his life amending for his deeds as a fallen paladin? He prayed and waited for his jugdement as the fighter retrieved the sword from his victim.
Afterwards, the paladin and the dark elf fighter had a heavy discussion on morals and decent behavior. But the fighter never gave up his sword...

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If it is evil you seek, seek no further...

Epona · 07-04-2001, 01:10 PM

My paladin thinks she is in charge, but sometimes my thief just runs ahead and nicks stuff, even if it involves desecrating the tombs of the dead. What can you do?...

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Alaric · 07-04-2001, 02:52 PM

You too.

My thief also had more items in his pack after going through the tombs then when he started. My Paladin questioned him and for a moment he forgot he was a gnome and though he was a kender. "How did that get in there. It must have fallen into my pack"

Khanar · 07-05-2001, 03:42 AM

Well, you just have the keep in mind the "it's for the greater good" line.

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06-24-2001, 02:54 PM	#1
Alaric Manshoon Join Date: June 24, 2001 Location: Woodland Hills, CA, USA Posts: 227	Possible Spoiler - - - - - - - - - - I have reached the Tier of the Dead and noticed that there are several tombs that can be opened that contain treasure. My dilemna, would a party of good characters that is being lead by a Paladin and has a Dwarf, really loot the tombs of the dead? [This message has been edited by Alaric (edited 06-24-2001).] [This message has been edited by Alaric (edited 06-24-2001).]

06-24-2001, 04:05 PM	#2
Duneswalker Dungeon Master Join Date: April 5, 2001 Location: Dearborn Heights, Mi, USA Posts: 53	You too huh? Yes in other areas, like the Vale of Shadows I could reconsile to the fact that these where centers of evil and that the items therein were destined for evil purposes and therefore it was my duty to liberate them. Upper Dorn's Deep is differnet, these are not tombs of evil undead, nor is it a sanctuary for evil. These are the final resting places of dwarves, valant and good who died defending thier home AGAINST evil. I had a real moral dilema too, I almost didn't touch anything, until I took a peek and say all blue (magic), then greed got me. There are some good items too. So how do we honorable Paladins role play this one? Whenever I'm faced with a roleplaying aspect I can't resolve I try to fill in the gaps. Like saying to myself, "the noble drawves would WANT me to use thier items to fight the evil in thier land". Well, lame, yes, but how else does a Pally justify grave robbing?

06-25-2001, 02:27 PM	#3
Arquetal Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: June 20, 2001 Location: groningen, Netherlands Posts: 30	spoiler...? - - - - - - - - This flaming sword just called out to my fighter. It spoke the ancient words of wisdom and strenght so compulsively there was no stopping the fighter. My paladin just wasn't fast enough to stop my fighter who had already plunged his sword deep into Malchon's stomach, tearing the flesh to create a lethal gap. The battle was fast and furious, but a dark feeling hovered over the paladin. Could standing by his party be the will of his God. Or would he be punished and spend the rest of his life amending for his deeds as a fallen paladin? He prayed and waited for his jugdement as the fighter retrieved the sword from his victim. Afterwards, the paladin and the dark elf fighter had a heavy discussion on morals and decent behavior. But the fighter never gave up his sword... ------------------ If it is evil you seek, seek no further...

07-04-2001, 01:10 PM	#4
Epona Zartan Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: London, England Age: 53 Posts: 5,164	My paladin thinks she is in charge, but sometimes my thief just runs ahead and nicks stuff, even if it involves desecrating the tombs of the dead. What can you do?... ------------------ Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. Epona of The Laughing Hyenas

07-04-2001, 02:52 PM	#5
Alaric Manshoon Join Date: June 24, 2001 Location: Woodland Hills, CA, USA Posts: 227	You too. My thief also had more items in his pack after going through the tombs then when he started. My Paladin questioned him and for a moment he forgot he was a gnome and though he was a kender. "How did that get in there. It must have fallen into my pack"

07-05-2001, 03:42 AM	#6
Khanar Manshoon Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 161	Well, you just have the keep in mind the "it's for the greater good" line.

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