I solved my herky, jerky game stutter problem....Yeah!

Ronn_Bman · 10-20-2002, 09:12 AM

I've posted several times here about the stutter problem that is discussed at great length on the Bioware forum, and even though no one here seems to have the problem, I thought I'd post my solution cause I'M SOOOO DAMN HAPPY

Here's my post from the Bioware forum....

I've waited a long time to post this, and it feels GREAT to have solved my stutter mystery.

To those still suffering with it....I DO feel your pain.
I noticed the stutter as soon as I started playing the game, and even though my problem was very mild, it drove me crazy.

***If you don't want to read the whole sad story, you can skip to my happy ending to see if this might help you***

I updated all my drivers, uninstalled/reinstalled those drivers several times, upgraded to a new graphics card (from the GeForce 2 MX 400 my NEW system came with), doubled my RDRAM, switched from using Norton's Speed Disc utility to Xp's defragment tool, tried every tweak and twitter listed on this and other boards, and anything else I could think of over the last last couple of months, but none of it worked becausing I was trying too hard

Now, I won't say there was no change after all this effort because somethings actually made the problem worse

A few nights ago, I was trying a new round of sound drivers that really increased the stutter, but after reverting to the older driver the problem didn't "calm down". I uninstalled/reinstalled the game, which usually restores the game to the mild version of stutter, but that didn't fix it either. Now I was worried because I had always been able to get it back to just the mild stutter. :look:

Now, I was ready to give up on the stutter problem entirely, if I could get it back to the mild version I said, "I'll never mess with it again." I thought, it's something I shouldn't have to live with, but that I can live with.

I completely removed all drivers and software associated with my sound card, and then reinstalled the driver from the Windows Update XP driver list, uninstalled the game, used XP's defragment tool (instead of Speed Disc, which seems to exaggerate the stutter), and then reinstalled and updated the game. It was late, so I didn't test it. I packed up my computer, mouse, cable modem, and headset, so I could take it to work with me over the weekend. I would use the moniter and keyboard at work.

I got to work yesterday morning, plugged everything up, loaded the game to see how bad the stutter still was and figure out what I need to work on first. Guess what? The stutter was gone. I played around for an hour, and it was totally gone without a trace. I figured it was either the XP defrag, removing the SB software, or something I'd left at home.

When I got home, I hooked my machine up and the stutter was back. I went through my peripherals one by one, and it was my printer. With the printer cable connected, I had a stutter in the game, and without it connected, the stutter was gone. I had the latest printer drivers, but reinstalled them anyway. This didn't make any difference. My printer is unplugged, and my game is stutter free! A small price to pay since I print about 5 pages a month, and when I need to print something, all I have to do is connect the cable.

I know this won't solve the problem for everyone, and I'm sure many people checked their peripherals first, but if you didn't, check out them out before you do anything else.

BTW, my uncle has a nearly identical Dell(before my new graphics card and extra ram they were identical), and disconnecting his 800 series HP printer solved his problem as well.

****Check your peripherals! The offending "item" causing the stutter, in my case, was the HP Photosmart 1000 printer. In my uncle's case, it was his HP 800 series printer.*****

I'm stutter free and feeling might fine!!!

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Larry_OHF · 10-20-2002, 10:49 AM

That is freaking cool man!
I have never been more happy to hear of somebody's problem fixer than this!

You suffered long, and am glad you have it all sorted out now! That rocks!

Ask your wife if LoA and me can come over and celebrate!

[ 10-20-2002, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]

Ronn_Bman · 10-20-2002, 11:35 AM

Thanks Larry!

I was able to help my uncle, and now someone on the Bioware board says after reading my tip he disconnected his scanner and his problem is solved.

My wife's take on all of this?

"You mean you've spent 2 months and $350 dollars upgrading your NEW computer only to find out that all you needed to do was UNPLUG THE PRINTER!?!?!?!?!?" [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

[ 10-20-2002, 01:24 PM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]

Jim · 10-20-2002, 03:19 PM

Glad to here you fixed it [img]smile.gif[/img] . Not sure why the printer would be doing that though. It could be something like your printer and mouse are sharing the same COMM port, so when you move your mouse in the game, your printer was battling against it if they both shared the same IRQ. Oh well, here's to smooth gaming!

Guenhwyvar & Catti-brie · 10-20-2002, 11:42 PM

I don't have any peripherals, but I still have the studder problem. Help me oh great Ronn_Bman of fixing things.. This sudder thing is really starting to bother me too.

Ronn_Bman · 10-21-2002, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Guenhwyvar & Catti-brie:
I don't have any peripherals, but I still have the studder problem. Help me oh great Ronn_Bman of fixing things.. This sudder thing is really starting to bother me too.

I would say check out the Bioware boards, and do a search on stutter. You'll get lots of threads to look through, and something there may work for you. Lots of people report solving or minimizing their stutter, and there are lots of different fixes. Unfortunately, some people haven't figured their stutter out yet.

All I can say is, keep searching, it is fixable. Good Luck!

Ishanda · 10-21-2002, 11:01 AM

Not that this has anything to do with your stutter problem, but.....

I think many companies are slow when it comes to these things...I have a HP laserjet 1000, and every so-often the thing just stops printing, giving a funny error message. The only solution to this is to unplug everything, and re-install the printer and drivers from scratch. I contacted HP about it and they rather nonchalantly told me that it was the USB controller on my motherboard, which I of course refused to believe. I go to their website and what do I see...

New drivers

I still get error messages, but at least I do not have to re-install drivers.

I love it how hardware/software manufacturers blame one another for their own problems.

Last little gripe, how many times have we all not complained about buggy games and the resultant string of "patches". It is a conspiracy I tell you. You never hear of console games requiring patches. The developers are stretched to meet deadlines and almost every game these days require numerous patches....

Utter drivel!!

myungbass · 10-21-2002, 11:57 AM

thats awesome man...i have the same problem REALLY bad and since I'm at school this very second i will try the printer thing as soon as i get home. If it works, you are the greatest..if not, i am still quite proud of you ;-p thanks for the tip dude

Redblueflare · 10-21-2002, 12:02 PM

I've had this problem to, but it ended when after a single defrag. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Geez you're awfully persistent aren't you Ronn? Now you can enjoy NWN to it's fullest!

Larry_OHF · 10-21-2002, 01:15 PM

Ron...if you keep your wife on that side of NC, and I promise to keep my wife on this side...we'll be alright. If they were to ever meet...our lives would be lived in pain.

10-20-2002, 09:12 AM	#1
Ronn_Bman Zartan Join Date: March 11, 2001 Location: North Carolina USA Age: 57 Posts: 5,177	I've posted several times here about the stutter problem that is discussed at great length on the Bioware forum, and even though no one here seems to have the problem, I thought I'd post my solution cause I'M SOOOO DAMN HAPPY Here's my post from the Bioware forum.... I've waited a long time to post this, and it feels GREAT to have solved my stutter mystery. To those still suffering with it....I DO feel your pain. I noticed the stutter as soon as I started playing the game, and even though my problem was very mild, it drove me crazy. *If you don't want to read the whole sad story, you can skip to my happy ending to see if this might help you* I updated all my drivers, uninstalled/reinstalled those drivers several times, upgraded to a new graphics card (from the GeForce 2 MX 400 my NEW system came with), doubled my RDRAM, switched from using Norton's Speed Disc utility to Xp's defragment tool, tried every tweak and twitter listed on this and other boards, and anything else I could think of over the last last couple of months, but none of it worked becausing I was trying too hard Now, I won't say there was no change after all this effort because somethings actually made the problem worse A few nights ago, I was trying a new round of sound drivers that really increased the stutter, but after reverting to the older driver the problem didn't "calm down". I uninstalled/reinstalled the game, which usually restores the game to the mild version of stutter, but that didn't fix it either. Now I was worried because I had always been able to get it back to just the mild stutter. :look: Now, I was ready to give up on the stutter problem entirely, if I could get it back to the mild version I said, "I'll never mess with it again." I thought, it's something I shouldn't have to live with, but that I can live with. I completely removed all drivers and software associated with my sound card, and then reinstalled the driver from the Windows Update XP driver list, uninstalled the game, used XP's defragment tool (instead of Speed Disc, which seems to exaggerate the stutter), and then reinstalled and updated the game. It was late, so I didn't test it. I packed up my computer, mouse, cable modem, and headset, so I could take it to work with me over the weekend. I would use the moniter and keyboard at work. I got to work yesterday morning, plugged everything up, loaded the game to see how bad the stutter still was and figure out what I need to work on first. Guess what? The stutter was gone. I played around for an hour, and it was totally gone without a trace. I figured it was either the XP defrag, removing the SB software, or something I'd left at home. When I got home, I hooked my machine up and the stutter was back. I went through my peripherals one by one, and it was my printer. With the printer cable connected, I had a stutter in the game, and without it connected, the stutter was gone. I had the latest printer drivers, but reinstalled them anyway. This didn't make any difference. My printer is unplugged, and my game is stutter free! A small price to pay since I print about 5 pages a month, and when I need to print something, all I have to do is connect the cable. I know this won't solve the problem for everyone, and I'm sure many people checked their peripherals first, but if you didn't, check out them out before you do anything else. BTW, my uncle has a nearly identical Dell(before my new graphics card and extra ram they were identical), and disconnecting his 800 series HP printer solved his problem as well. **Check your peripherals! The offending "item" causing the stutter, in my case, was the HP Photosmart 1000 printer. In my uncle's case, it was his HP 800 series printer.* I'm stutter free and feeling might fine**!!! _________________ Version 1.26 Dell Dimension 8200 Intel P4 2Ghz XP Home/Service Pack 1 512 MG RDRAM Leadtek GeForce ti4400 30.87 SB Live! Value 5.1.2602.0 40GIG ATA-100,7200rpm HD __________________ [img]\"http://home.carolina.rr.com/orthanc/pics/Spinning%20Hammer%20Sig%20Pic.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

10-20-2002, 10:49 AM	#2
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 48 Posts: 14,759	That is freaking cool man! I have never been more happy to hear of somebody's problem fixer than this! You suffered long, and am glad you have it all sorted out now! That rocks! Ask your wife if LoA and me can come over and celebrate! [ 10-20-2002, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ] __________________

10-20-2002, 11:35 AM	#3
Ronn_Bman Zartan Join Date: March 11, 2001 Location: North Carolina USA Age: 57 Posts: 5,177	Thanks Larry! I was able to help my uncle, and now someone on the Bioware board says after reading my tip he disconnected his scanner and his problem is solved. My wife's take on all of this? "You mean you've spent 2 months and $350 dollars upgrading your NEW computer only to find out that all you needed to do was UNPLUG THE PRINTER!?!?!?!?!?" [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] [ 10-20-2002, 01:24 PM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ] __________________ [img]\"http://home.carolina.rr.com/orthanc/pics/Spinning%20Hammer%20Sig%20Pic.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

10-21-2002, 11:57 AM	#8
myungbass Manshoon Join Date: September 18, 2002 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 40 Posts: 159	thats awesome man...i have the same problem REALLY bad and since I'm at school this very second i will try the printer thing as soon as i get home. If it works, you are the greatest..if not, i am still quite proud of you ;-p thanks for the tip dude __________________ no no! put it on rocco ya look scary!<br /><br />now rocco, are ya sure yer oh-bee kay-bee? ::snicker::<br /><br />Shepherds we shall be<br />For thee, my Lord, for thee.<br />Power hath descended forth from Thy hand<br />So feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands.<br />We will flow a river forth to Thee<br />And teeming with souls shall it ever be.<br />In Nomeni Patri Et Fili<br />Spiritus Sancti

10-21-2002, 12:02 PM	#9
Redblueflare Galvatron Join Date: May 9, 2001 Location: The backwoods in Georgia sigh Age: 39 Posts: 2,151	I've had this problem to, but it ended when after a single defrag. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Geez you're awfully persistent aren't you Ronn? Now you can enjoy NWN to it's fullest! __________________ <br /><br />\"If you ever need me just whistle, and i\'ll come running. I promise. <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Smile]\" src=\"smile.gif\" /> <br />Kupo, Kupo! A man can\'t get a sword if he can\'t dance! <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Big Grin]\" src=\"biggrin.gif\" />

10-20-2002, 03:19 PM	#4
Jim Quintesson Join Date: May 1, 2001 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, England Age: 43 Posts: 1,088	Glad to here you fixed it [img]smile.gif[/img] . Not sure why the printer would be doing that though. It could be something like your printer and mouse are sharing the same COMM port, so when you move your mouse in the game, your printer was battling against it if they both shared the same IRQ. Oh well, here's to smooth gaming!

10-20-2002, 11:42 PM	#5
Guenhwyvar & Catti-brie Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 8, 2002 Location: Tacoma, WA, USA Age: 41 Posts: 26	I don't have any peripherals, but I still have the studder problem. Help me oh great Ronn_Bman of fixing things.. This sudder thing is really starting to bother me too.

10-21-2002, 11:01 AM	#7
Ishanda Dungeon Master Join Date: September 23, 2002 Location: South Africa Age: 50 Posts: 61	Not that this has anything to do with your stutter problem, but..... I think many companies are slow when it comes to these things...I have a HP laserjet 1000, and every so-often the thing just stops printing, giving a funny error message. The only solution to this is to unplug everything, and re-install the printer and drivers from scratch. I contacted HP about it and they rather nonchalantly told me that it was the USB controller on my motherboard, which I of course refused to believe. I go to their website and what do I see... New drivers I still get error messages, but at least I do not have to re-install drivers. I love it how hardware/software manufacturers blame one another for their own problems. Last little gripe, how many times have we all not complained about buggy games and the resultant string of "patches". It is a conspiracy I tell you. You never hear of console games requiring patches. The developers are stretched to meet deadlines and almost every game these days require numerous patches.... Utter drivel!!

10-21-2002, 01:15 PM	#10
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 48 Posts: 14,759	Ron...if you keep your wife on that side of NC, and I promise to keep my wife on this side...we'll be alright. If they were to ever meet...our lives would be lived in pain. __________________

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