Multi vs. single player vs. cost

john · 05-02-2002, 10:51 AM

I've never played an on-line game (as yet) but am curious about NWN I played BG1,BG2,IWD,W&W,Wiz8,and am now going through DS the second time.But what I'd like to know is when I pay 50-60 bucks for a game that I probably will only play single not on-line and am not swift enough to create new dungeons myself am I being forced to pay extra for features that I will never use and could the game have been bigger and better if all their resorces were put into a single player game???I would love to be able to build my own game with the come with the game editors but think that would be very time consuming and not to easy for a non programer type.If I'm wrong about these features please feel free to explain their simplicity if possible thanks..John

Madriver · 05-02-2002, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by john:
I've never played an on-line game (as yet) but am curious about NWN I played BG1,BG2,IWD,W&W,Wiz8,and am now going through DS the second time.But what I'd like to know is when I pay 50-60 bucks for a game that I probably will only play single not on-line and am not swift enough to create new dungeons myself am I being forced to pay extra for features that I will never use and could the game have been bigger and better if all their resorces were put into a single player game???I would love to be able to build my own game with the come with the game editors but think that would be very time consuming and not to easy for a non programer type.If I'm wrong about these features please feel free to explain their simplicity if possible thanks..John

Well, one of the draws for NWN is the multiplayer aspect, but the playability for single player will be enormous as well. Even if you don't have the time to build your own modules, there are many people around the world who do and who will post theirs. So it will just take a little internet surfing to find more dungeons to explore when you are done with the single player quest that ships with the game.

Have you ever seen the mods for BG2 on the web...like The Darkest Day? It took these guys a very long time to create the mod, and it was snapped up by a lot of players, imagine everyone being able to create them. It's like a neverending flow of free expansion packs. [img]smile.gif[/img]

mreball · 05-03-2002, 11:02 AM

John,
I think your missing out on over half of the enjoyment by not playing these games online. Just my 2 cents worth. In a multiplayer game you dont know if the other members are going to run. It just adds to the excitment of the game.

Redblueflare · 05-03-2002, 12:32 PM

Are you kidding?

This game will be awesome no matter which mode you play it on! I don't remember exactly how long, but the single player mode has a long quest. Even if you don't play it online you can just download mods and new quests for the game. You know others are going to make them, even if you decide not to. Oh and online is free in this game, so why not play it online? At least give it a try...

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mreball · 05-03-2002, 02:28 PM

I wasnt saying that it wont be fun playing by yourself but you wont get to exprience the whole package. It may be just me but after saving the king, dating the queen and slaying the dragon I might want to bost a little bit with my fellow compaions but hey that is just me

flibulzbuth · 05-07-2002, 01:53 AM

I agree the NWN is very expensive if you only buy it for the single-player module. I'd wait for all the just-released fuzz to settle down before buying it. You'll get a more decent price and cold-headed reviews of the single-player aspect.
Still, i trust Bioware. They have shown us twice that they can make the best D&D scenarios. My only fear is that the story might be too short...
There will probably be a couple/some/a lot of good single-player mods, but the best ones will take many months to come out.

I prefer single-player too, for roleplay and character immersion vs. powerplay. But, i can't wait to build my own world.

Loremage · 05-23-2002, 07:58 PM

mreball I totally agree. Most games SUCK on single player. Besides teh BG and IWD serises. Take Diablo 2 for example. That game gets boring in single player in like an hour.

mreball · 05-30-2002, 10:44 AM

Yeah Diablo 2 did suck playing single player. I dont know I like showing off my newly acquired items it I earned them. In single player you dont get that satisfaction. I guess that goes back to the old issue roleplaying vs rollplaying.

uss · 05-31-2002, 04:54 PM

john, i have downloaded the toolset beta and i can easily tell you that it is NOT just for programmer types. i dont know s**t about comps either but this toolset is extremely easy to use and i will definately build atleast one world

05-02-2002, 10:51 AM	#1
john Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: October 6, 2001 Location: central coast of Ca. Age: 77 Posts: 653	I've never played an on-line game (as yet) but am curious about NWN I played BG1,BG2,IWD,W&W,Wiz8,and am now going through DS the second time.But what I'd like to know is when I pay 50-60 bucks for a game that I probably will only play single not on-line and am not swift enough to create new dungeons myself am I being forced to pay extra for features that I will never use and could the game have been bigger and better if all their resorces were put into a single player game???I would love to be able to build my own game with the come with the game editors but think that would be very time consuming and not to easy for a non programer type.If I'm wrong about these features please feel free to explain their simplicity if possible thanks..John __________________ John

05-03-2002, 11:02 AM	#3
mreball Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: April 24, 2002 Location: usa Age: 52 Posts: 32	John, I think your missing out on over half of the enjoyment by not playing these games online. Just my 2 cents worth. In a multiplayer game you dont know if the other members are going to run. It just adds to the excitment of the game. __________________ If you must argue, remember that it is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.

05-03-2002, 12:32 PM	#4
Redblueflare Galvatron Join Date: May 9, 2001 Location: The backwoods in Georgia sigh Age: 39 Posts: 2,151	Are you kidding? This game will be awesome no matter which mode you play it on! I don't remember exactly how long, but the single player mode has a long quest. Even if you don't play it online you can just download mods and new quests for the game. You know others are going to make them, even if you decide not to. Oh and online is free in this game, so why not play it online? At least give it a try... [ 05-03-2002, 12:32 PM: Message edited by: Redblueflare ] __________________ <br /><br />\"If you ever need me just whistle, and i\'ll come running. I promise. <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Smile]\" src=\"smile.gif\" /> <br />Kupo, Kupo! A man can\'t get a sword if he can\'t dance! <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Big Grin]\" src=\"biggrin.gif\" />

05-03-2002, 02:28 PM	#5
mreball Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: April 24, 2002 Location: usa Age: 52 Posts: 32	I wasnt saying that it wont be fun playing by yourself but you wont get to exprience the whole package. It may be just me but after saving the king, dating the queen and slaying the dragon I might want to bost a little bit with my fellow compaions but hey that is just me __________________ If you must argue, remember that it is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.

05-07-2002, 01:53 AM	#6
flibulzbuth Drow Warrior Join Date: April 6, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 254	I agree the NWN is very expensive if you only buy it for the single-player module. I'd wait for all the just-released fuzz to settle down before buying it. You'll get a more decent price and cold-headed reviews of the single-player aspect. Still, i trust Bioware. They have shown us twice that they can make the best D&D scenarios. My only fear is that the story might be too short... There will probably be a couple/some/a lot of good single-player mods, but the best ones will take many months to come out. I prefer single-player too, for roleplay and character immersion vs. powerplay. But, i can't wait to build my own world. __________________ Boo for president!

05-23-2002, 07:58 PM	#7
Loremage Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 23, 2002 Location: Evalon Age: 44 Posts: 49	mreball I totally agree. Most games SUCK on single player. Besides teh BG and IWD serises. Take Diablo 2 for example. That game gets boring in single player in like an hour. __________________ One day deamons will burst from computer games everywhere. Then, will the people look to the D&D gamers with eyes of admiration, hoping for salvation!

05-30-2002, 10:44 AM	#8
mreball Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: April 24, 2002 Location: usa Age: 52 Posts: 32	Yeah Diablo 2 did suck playing single player. I dont know I like showing off my newly acquired items it I earned them. In single player you dont get that satisfaction. I guess that goes back to the old issue roleplaying vs rollplaying. __________________ If you must argue, remember that it is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.

05-31-2002, 04:54 PM	#9
uss 20th Level Warrior Join Date: November 16, 2001 Location: Estonia Age: 35 Posts: 2,775	john, i have downloaded the toolset beta and i can easily tell you that it is NOT just for programmer types. i dont know s**t about comps either but this toolset is extremely easy to use and i will definately build atleast one world

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