Gold date slipped on ToB! - Page 3

Shadowblade · 06-06-2001, 07:25 PM

You call Autumn 'Fall'

But this is balanced by the Simpsons

Memnoch · 06-06-2001, 10:45 PM

Some advice from someone who has had some experience consulting on supply chain issues – stores/retailers that make ETA commitments about a game that has not gone gold yet are full of bollocks. The designers THEMSELVES don’t know when the game is going to go gold, so how would the stores? They are just quoting a date in their purchasing systems, and they have to tell the masses something. I would say that when the game does go gold, it should ship a couple of days after that. Personally, I would rather wait and get a game that is as free of bugs as possible than go through major frustration playing a game that was rushed through the QA stage.

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SSJ4Sephiroth · 06-06-2001, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shadowblade:
You call Autumn 'Fall'

But this is balanced by the Simpsons

yes, all hail the Simpsons, the only good thing to ever be spawned and sent out of the United States of America!

Larry_OHF · 06-06-2001, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Reeka:
Larry, I know all that, I was just playing!

oops, sorry...that is what the biggest problem is with the internet discussions...we cannot understand each other's true intentions by seeing little words. Sorry...Plus, I bet I am going to far now, because I have taken us off topic. (I just wanted to apologize Reeka_OHF)

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joetbd · 06-07-2001, 01:13 AM

The Game is probably close. THey are merely pushing the release date back by a few days or a couple of weeks. Neverwinter nights on the other hand... That will never be finish.

There have been games that have been years late. I think "Oni" was about a year and ahalf late, from the first scheduled released date, that Chips & Bits was advertizing.

Cayle · 06-07-2001, 01:45 AM

I agree with Memnoch about waiting for the QA. Testing and bug squashing is a tedious business and no one can EVER give an accurate estimate as to when it will be done. Are there debuggers for the AI language? Perhaps not, then debugging AI scripts can get real fun (and take forever). The longer you look, the more bugs you find. It is really just a question of when it is "good enough".

Epona, I remember seeing a PBS (Public Broadcasting Corp, similar to BBC) documentary on the history of the English language. There is a costal island in Virginia where the locals speak what is supposed to be a pretty good approximation of what Elizabethan English sounded like. It sounds like a mild southern drawl to my Yankee ears! As far a language change goes, this is natural and not necessarily a bad thing. We ditched Thee and Thou centuries ago and along with it the grammatical complications associated with a formal and informal case. Plus, we don't have to fret over whether Du/Tu or Sie/Vu somebody. Whenever I am speaking to a German and I am not sure about using Sie or Du, I cheat and try to use English for those "you" statements. Cheese? You bet!

BTW- because of the discrepancy in the way that Americans and everyone else writes dates (and times), there is a special ISO method for writing dates: YearMonthDay.

-Cayle

Cayle · 06-07-2001, 01:48 AM

write dates! Grrrrrr, I need to proofread before posting. Wait! I am not a DM anymore...

-Cayle

Lifetime · 06-07-2001, 01:53 AM

Somehow, I dont understand the enthusiasm everyone holds for TOB. To me it just looks like more and more powergaming. I looked forward to HOW more than TOB.

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Why?

caleb · 06-07-2001, 02:12 AM

Whats this your dissing TOB? your lifetime will be a very short one!

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BOW TO THE BISCUIT KING AND HIS THRONE OF SCONE!!!

SSJ4Sephiroth · 06-07-2001, 02:17 AM

The Great and Mighty Sephiroth does not approve of anyone bashing ToB. their fate can only be one of this...
WATCH THAT FIRST STEP! UWAHAHAHA!!!

[This message has been edited by SSJ4Sephiroth (edited 06-07-2001).]

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06-06-2001, 07:25 PM	#21
Shadowblade The Magister Join Date: May 31, 2001 Location: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Posts: 114	You call Autumn 'Fall' But this is balanced by the Simpsons

06-06-2001, 10:45 PM	#22
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	Some advice from someone who has had some experience consulting on supply chain issues – stores/retailers that make ETA commitments about a game that has not gone gold yet are full of bollocks. The designers THEMSELVES don’t know when the game is going to go gold, so how would the stores? They are just quoting a date in their purchasing systems, and they have to tell the masses something. I would say that when the game does go gold, it should ship a couple of days after that. Personally, I would rather wait and get a game that is as free of bugs as possible than go through major frustration playing a game that was rushed through the QA stage. ------------------

06-07-2001, 01:13 AM	#25
joetbd Manshoon Join Date: June 6, 2001 Location: KC Posts: 164	The Game is probably close. THey are merely pushing the release date back by a few days or a couple of weeks. Neverwinter nights on the other hand... That will never be finish. There have been games that have been years late. I think "Oni" was about a year and ahalf late, from the first scheduled released date, that Chips & Bits was advertizing.

06-07-2001, 01:45 AM	#26
Cayle The Magister Join Date: March 16, 2001 Location: From NJ, USA IN Wiesloch Germany Posts: 141	I agree with Memnoch about waiting for the QA. Testing and bug squashing is a tedious business and no one can EVER give an accurate estimate as to when it will be done. Are there debuggers for the AI language? Perhaps not, then debugging AI scripts can get real fun (and take forever). The longer you look, the more bugs you find. It is really just a question of when it is "good enough". Epona, I remember seeing a PBS (Public Broadcasting Corp, similar to BBC) documentary on the history of the English language. There is a costal island in Virginia where the locals speak what is supposed to be a pretty good approximation of what Elizabethan English sounded like. It sounds like a mild southern drawl to my Yankee ears! As far a language change goes, this is natural and not necessarily a bad thing. We ditched Thee and Thou centuries ago and along with it the grammatical complications associated with a formal and informal case. Plus, we don't have to fret over whether Du/Tu or Sie/Vu somebody. Whenever I am speaking to a German and I am not sure about using Sie or Du, I cheat and try to use English for those "you" statements. Cheese? You bet! BTW- because of the discrepancy in the way that Americans and everyone else writes dates (and times), there is a special ISO method for writing dates: YearMonthDay. -Cayle

06-07-2001, 01:48 AM	#27
Cayle The Magister Join Date: March 16, 2001 Location: From NJ, USA IN Wiesloch Germany Posts: 141	write dates! Grrrrrr, I need to proofread before posting. Wait! I am not a DM anymore... -Cayle

06-07-2001, 01:53 AM	#28
Lifetime Red Dragon Join Date: March 3, 2001 Location: Scotch College, Melbourne Posts: 1,503	Somehow, I dont understand the enthusiasm everyone holds for TOB. To me it just looks like more and more powergaming. I looked forward to HOW more than TOB. ------------------ Why?

06-07-2001, 02:12 AM	#29
caleb Horus - Egyptian Sky God Join Date: April 10, 2001 Location: Tacoma, WA, U.S.A. Age: 39 Posts: 2,615	Whats this your dissing TOB? your lifetime will be a very short one! ------------------ BOW TO THE BISCUIT KING AND HIS THRONE OF SCONE!!!

06-07-2001, 02:17 AM	#30
SSJ4Sephiroth Beholder Join Date: May 4, 2001 Location: The Outside Looking In Age: 37 Posts: 4,361	The Great and Mighty Sephiroth does not approve of anyone bashing ToB. their fate can only be one of this... WATCH THAT FIRST STEP! UWAHAHAHA!!! [This message has been edited by SSJ4Sephiroth (edited 06-07-2001).]

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