Holding a grudge.

uhulio · 08-22-2001, 01:24 PM

I tried to pickpocket Bernard, in the Copper Coronet, I got caught redhanded which pissed the big guy off to no end. Is there anyway to beg for forgiveness, pay tribute or charm him back to a friendly status? I picked his pocket on the 4th day of the campaign and now, a month in everytime I go to the Coronet, I gotta knock his arse out cold. Anyone know of a fix? I wouldn't mind getting some lodging or even buying some of his wares if he would let me. Its not like I stepped out with his old lady. sheesh.

Sazerac · 08-22-2001, 01:29 PM

Have you tried Charm? (the spell, I mean). I'm not sure if that would work, though.

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uhulio · 08-22-2001, 01:31 PM

I did try a Domination, it turned him green but it would not let me talk to him. I don't believe you can initiate dialogue with charmed people either. However, with the domination spell I tried to get him killed in a good ole fashioned bar brawl but he is really tough. His fists were making mince meat outta the hooligans in the bar.

Starkiller · 08-22-2001, 02:14 PM

you know, that is the one problem in SoA, you can no longer talk to charmed people and find out true answers if they were lying and such like you could in BG1. I mean, domination IS supposed to give you access to the subjects thoughts, so whats the deal?

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"Not everything ends the way you think it should"

Redblueflare · 08-22-2001, 02:18 PM

If you stole from him and got caught, you better have a save. He'll attack you everytime you come in. You have trouble stealing from him with thievery above 200. That alone takes about 5 potions of master thievery. Don't even bother next time!

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just don't have to listen.

oldbittercraig · 08-22-2001, 02:33 PM

proving once and for all that crime doesn't pay.

uhulio · 08-22-2001, 03:01 PM

Nah, crime pays fine. Its getting caught that sucks. So be it. Bernard is now my arch enemy. I am going to torment him each and everytime I am near that bar. Think Ill polymorph him and flesh to stone his ass for all the world to see.

trux · 08-22-2001, 04:52 PM

You can't initiate dialog with someone you charmed/dominated. The charm/domination spell won't even last long enough so you'd have to keep redoing it every time you went into the Copper Coronet anyway. Load a previously saved game.

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a bunch of long hairs.
trux

Yorick · 08-22-2001, 07:38 PM

Yep. The colours red and green are conversation stoppers.

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I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on....

A fair dinkum laughing Hyena!

Nanobyte · 08-22-2001, 08:02 PM

Usually, when I have to charm a civilian, it is when I will never see them again. I see no point in visiting Bernard after you have stolen his cloak. Other pointers include if you are seen killing (or attacking) someone who isn't Evil (or doesn't seem to be).

(Sorry, I sounded like a toddler

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[This message has been edited by Nanobyte (edited 08-22-2001).]

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08-22-2001, 01:24 PM	#1
uhulio Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 17, 2001 Location: kitchener Posts: 9	I tried to pickpocket Bernard, in the Copper Coronet, I got caught redhanded which pissed the big guy off to no end. Is there anyway to beg for forgiveness, pay tribute or charm him back to a friendly status? I picked his pocket on the 4th day of the campaign and now, a month in everytime I go to the Coronet, I gotta knock his arse out cold. Anyone know of a fix? I wouldn't mind getting some lodging or even buying some of his wares if he would let me. Its not like I stepped out with his old lady. sheesh.

08-22-2001, 01:29 PM	#2
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 60 Posts: 7,387	Have you tried Charm? (the spell, I mean). I'm not sure if that would work, though. ------------------

08-22-2001, 01:31 PM	#3
uhulio Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 17, 2001 Location: kitchener Posts: 9	I did try a Domination, it turned him green but it would not let me talk to him. I don't believe you can initiate dialogue with charmed people either. However, with the domination spell I tried to get him killed in a good ole fashioned bar brawl but he is really tough. His fists were making mince meat outta the hooligans in the bar.

08-22-2001, 02:14 PM	#4
Starkiller The Magister Join Date: July 4, 2001 Location: New York, NY, USA Posts: 149	you know, that is the one problem in SoA, you can no longer talk to charmed people and find out true answers if they were lying and such like you could in BG1. I mean, domination IS supposed to give you access to the subjects thoughts, so whats the deal? ------------------ "Not everything ends the way you think it should"

08-22-2001, 02:18 PM	#5
Redblueflare Galvatron Join Date: May 9, 2001 Location: The backwoods in Georgia sigh Age: 39 Posts: 2,151	If you stole from him and got caught, you better have a save. He'll attack you everytime you come in. You have trouble stealing from him with thievery above 200. That alone takes about 5 potions of master thievery. Don't even bother next time! ------------------ Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just don't have to listen.

08-22-2001, 02:33 PM	#6
oldbittercraig Elminster Join Date: July 12, 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ, us Posts: 435	proving once and for all that crime doesn't pay.

08-22-2001, 03:01 PM	#7
uhulio Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 17, 2001 Location: kitchener Posts: 9	Nah, crime pays fine. Its getting caught that sucks. So be it. Bernard is now my arch enemy. I am going to torment him each and everytime I am near that bar. Think Ill polymorph him and flesh to stone his ass for all the world to see.

08-22-2001, 04:52 PM	#8
trux Avatar Join Date: May 19, 2001 Location: Darkside of the Moon Posts: 578	You can't initiate dialog with someone you charmed/dominated. The charm/domination spell won't even last long enough so you'd have to keep redoing it every time you went into the Copper Coronet anyway. Load a previously saved game. ------------------ a bunch of long hairs. trux

08-22-2001, 07:38 PM	#9
Yorick Very Mad Bird Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam) Age: 52 Posts: 9,246	Yep. The colours red and green are conversation stoppers. ------------------ I am the walrus!.... er, no hang on.... A fair dinkum laughing Hyena!

08-22-2001, 08:02 PM	#10
Nanobyte Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: NC Age: 38 Posts: 2,890	Usually, when I have to charm a civilian, it is when I will never see them again. I see no point in visiting Bernard after you have stolen his cloak. Other pointers include if you are seen killing (or attacking) someone who isn't Evil (or doesn't seem to be). (Sorry, I sounded like a toddler ) [This message has been edited by Nanobyte (edited 08-22-2001).]

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