Will this party work?

Epilepsy · 01-02-2006, 01:16 PM

I'm thinking of taking the main party (Imoen, Jaheira, Khalid, Minsc, and Dynaheir) through the full series, since I've never done that before. I can't stand most of them, but I want to experience the story. Anyway.

Will they be able to survive all of BGI and TotSC? My PC's going to be a paladin, probably an Inquisitor in BGII. Anomen and Aerie'll join, as well.

The normal game is easy enough, but Durlag's Tower, Aec'Letec, and Werewolf Island are worrying me.

krunchyfrogg · 01-02-2006, 02:53 PM

Yes, very much so. I did the same party once long ago. While it's not the optimal powergaming party, it's a quite good one.

For consistency, you could even dual-class Imoen at level 7, but you'll be without thieving skills for quite a long time!

BTW, you experience the story just as well without these NPCs. Don't feel railroaded into taking them unless you really want to.

Epilepsy · 01-02-2006, 03:22 PM

Yeah, I know, I've just never used the original party before, so I figured I'd see what it's like.

Thanks.

Dragonshadow · 01-03-2006, 10:37 AM

hey shoudl survive, but if Jaheira dies, it's no big deal [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Lord · 01-03-2006, 12:43 PM

yes, the party will work fine. I've run through the game with this party a number of times and I haven't gotten bored of this party combo yet. You've got your thieving from Imoen (you will want to carry some potions of perception in Durlag's Tower), healing form Jaheira, spell casting from Dynaheir, a great tank in Minsc, a pretty good fighter from Khalid (he's pretty good with the Spider's Sword), and another fighter if you are a paladin.

AeonsLegend · 01-06-2006, 09:23 AM

You guys like Imoen? I dispise her, although her thieving skills are the best in the game. She becomes more annoying in BGII SOA. I simply can't stand her... I think the creators agreed and then did what they did.

Aside from that the party sounds ok. I've run through the entire game (incl ToB) with them before. They do seem to have more to do with you and since they are the only characters that you can play in BG as well as in BG II it does seem they bring more background into the story.
Jaheira is a good druid with good THAC0, minsc is killer with the two handed sword and Imoen is a great thief. Now all you need is a mage and you're set.

[ 01-06-2006, 09:26 AM: Message edited by: AeonsLegend ]

SixOfSpades · 01-06-2006, 07:37 PM

Well, frankly, I've never seen any reason to dislike Imoen; her cheerfulness can get annoying after repeated games, sure, but she's not even close to the syrupy cuteness offered by, say, Alora. And between Imoen's soundset and Safana's, I'll take the girl next door over the lame, wannabe seductress any day. And you can't fault her build either: Effective maxima in DEX and CON, great CHA if you need it, and she makes a damn fine Thief->Mage to boot. Well-positioned Thieving points, too. She can't max out in all the Thieving skills by herself (no one can in BG1), but double her with Montaron or Coran and you're all set to kick all kinds of ass.

In BG2, she's only annying in the starting dungeon, but that's only because there's no way to turn off all her stupid interjections that she's blurting out for the umpteenth time. ("Dude, just SHUT UP, Imoen! This is like the 50th time we've been through this dungeon, I don't NEED to hear you talk about how books remind you of Candlekeep!")

Anyway....yeah, the "Continuity Approved" party is pretty solid, given that you've built a kickass Warrior PC. They obviously aren't the best party you can put together, but they'll see you through. The only weak points I can see are Khalid and Jaheira: Khalid's stats won't really let him shine either in ranged or melee combat; in my opinion, he's rendered completely obsolete by Kivan. And Jaheira's spells just plain suck in BG1, but then again, that's BioWare's fault, not hers, for including all the good Cleric spells and none for the Druids. (Tutu should fix this, though.) Then again, Jaheira's stats are nothing to write home about either--I'd like to buff her BG1 stats up to what they are in BG2, or at least average them both together and give Druids some worthwhile spells in BG2.

Epilepsy · 01-06-2006, 09:03 PM

Six:

What's your favorite party for interaction, by the way?

Also, your favorite class.

\/ Me? No.

[ 01-06-2006, 09:11 PM: Message edited by: Epilepsy ]

Sir Degrader · 01-06-2006, 09:08 PM

Hmm, is your main char called Abdel?

krunchyfrogg · 01-07-2006, 08:47 AM

I agree with sixy over there, 'cept for one minor thing:

The party works best with some sort of Warrior/Healer type, whether it be a Fighter/Cleric (multi or dual), or a Paladin, which works great as well.

01-02-2006, 02:53 PM	#2
krunchyfrogg Red Dragon Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: NY, USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,516	Yes, very much so. I did the same party once long ago. While it's not the optimal powergaming party, it's a quite good one. For consistency, you could even dual-class Imoen at level 7, but you'll be without thieving skills for quite a long time! BTW, you experience the story just as well without these NPCs. Don't feel railroaded into taking them unless you really want to. __________________ <i>A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives.</i><br />- Jackie Robinson<br /><br /> [img]\"http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3353/salsashark7xl.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

01-03-2006, 10:37 AM	#4
Dragonshadow Quth-Maren Join Date: February 17, 2003 Location: Portsmouth Age: 34 Posts: 4,145	hey shoudl survive, but if Jaheira dies, it's no big deal [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ aka Loc der Graf, Quillruke

01-03-2006, 12:43 PM	#5
Lord Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: June 3, 2003 Location: New York Age: 39 Posts: 3,302	yes, the party will work fine. I've run through the game with this party a number of times and I haven't gotten bored of this party combo yet. You've got your thieving from Imoen (you will want to carry some potions of perception in Durlag's Tower), healing form Jaheira, spell casting from Dynaheir, a great tank in Minsc, a pretty good fighter from Khalid (he's pretty good with the Spider's Sword), and another fighter if you are a paladin. __________________ "You're a thief and a liar." "No, I only lied about being a thief."

01-06-2006, 07:37 PM	#7
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 46 Posts: 6,901	Well, frankly, I've never seen any reason to dislike Imoen; her cheerfulness can get annoying after repeated games, sure, but she's not even close to the syrupy cuteness offered by, say, Alora. And between Imoen's soundset and Safana's, I'll take the girl next door over the lame, wannabe seductress any day. And you can't fault her build either: Effective maxima in DEX and CON, great CHA if you need it, and she makes a damn fine Thief->Mage to boot. Well-positioned Thieving points, too. She can't max out in all the Thieving skills by herself (no one can in BG1), but double her with Montaron or Coran and you're all set to kick all kinds of ass. In BG2, she's only annying in the starting dungeon, but that's only because there's no way to turn off all her stupid interjections that she's blurting out for the umpteenth time. ("Dude, just SHUT UP, Imoen! This is like the 50th time we've been through this dungeon, I don't NEED to hear you talk about how books remind you of Candlekeep!") Anyway....yeah, the "Continuity Approved" party is pretty solid, given that you've built a kickass Warrior PC. They obviously aren't the best party you can put together, but they'll see you through. The only weak points I can see are Khalid and Jaheira: Khalid's stats won't really let him shine either in ranged or melee combat; in my opinion, he's rendered completely obsolete by Kivan. And Jaheira's spells just plain suck in BG1, but then again, that's BioWare's fault, not hers, for including all the good Cleric spells and none for the Druids. (Tutu should fix this, though.) Then again, Jaheira's stats are nothing to write home about either--I'd like to buff her BG1 stats up to what they are in BG2, or at least average them both together and give Druids some worthwhile spells in BG2. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

01-07-2006, 08:47 AM	#10
krunchyfrogg Red Dragon Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: NY, USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,516	I agree with sixy over there, 'cept for one minor thing: The party works best with some sort of Warrior/Healer type, whether it be a Fighter/Cleric (multi or dual), or a Paladin, which works great as well. __________________ <i>A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives.</i><br />- Jackie Robinson<br /><br /> [img]\"http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3353/salsashark7xl.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

01-02-2006, 01:16 PM	#1
Epilepsy Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: December 29, 2005 Location: New York Age: 36 Posts: 9	I'm thinking of taking the main party (Imoen, Jaheira, Khalid, Minsc, and Dynaheir) through the full series, since I've never done that before. I can't stand most of them, but I want to experience the story. Anyway. Will they be able to survive all of BGI and TotSC? My PC's going to be a paladin, probably an Inquisitor in BGII. Anomen and Aerie'll join, as well. The normal game is easy enough, but Durlag's Tower, Aec'Letec, and Werewolf Island are worrying me.

01-02-2006, 03:22 PM	#3
Epilepsy Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: December 29, 2005 Location: New York Age: 36 Posts: 9	Yeah, I know, I've just never used the original party before, so I figured I'd see what it's like. Thanks.

01-06-2006, 09:23 AM	#6
AeonsLegend Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 2, 2006 Location: Netherlands Age: 45 Posts: 37	You guys like Imoen? I dispise her, although her thieving skills are the best in the game. She becomes more annoying in BGII SOA. I simply can't stand her... I think the creators agreed and then did what they did. Aside from that the party sounds ok. I've run through the entire game (incl ToB) with them before. They do seem to have more to do with you and since they are the only characters that you can play in BG as well as in BG II it does seem they bring more background into the story. Jaheira is a good druid with good THAC0, minsc is killer with the two handed sword and Imoen is a great thief. Now all you need is a mage and you're set. [ 01-06-2006, 09:26 AM: Message edited by: AeonsLegend ]

01-06-2006, 09:03 PM	#8
Epilepsy Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: December 29, 2005 Location: New York Age: 36 Posts: 9	Six: What's your favorite party for interaction, by the way? Also, your favorite class. \/ Me? No. [ 01-06-2006, 09:11 PM: Message edited by: Epilepsy ]

01-06-2006, 09:08 PM	#9
Sir Degrader Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Canada Age: 63 Posts: 2,871	Hmm, is your main char called Abdel?

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