Dundee Slaytern

Jason the Red · 09-24-2001, 06:17 PM

You the man! I didn't even need the tanks, the Wild mage took care of the whole fight ! Bloody Dragon was dead in the second round! I am not using the mages to the full potential evidently. Thanks for the help!

Dundee Slaytern · 09-25-2001, 01:21 AM

Awwww, you flatter me.

Always glad to help a fellow Mage/Sorcerer.

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Lord Ed · 09-25-2001, 08:36 AM

Would you please re-post the strategy to which you are referring or point me in the right direction to find it myself? Thanks, Lord Ed

Dundee Slaytern · 09-25-2001, 11:32 AM

Strategy I gave for Jason the Red.

Some methods to kill Dragons, some cheesy, some not. All of them work, because I personally took the effort to try them all out.

1) Cloudkill method: Widely popular among those who are not used to fighting Dragons yet, you basically cast multiple Cloudkills out of the Dragon's sight, The area of effect will hit the Dragon, but the Dragon will not fight back because it cannot see you.

2) Trap method: Mostly nerfed with ToB, but basically you lay traps galore around the Dragon before talking smack to it. Instant kill. In ToB however, do not use this method, the Dragon will go hostile if you lay traps within it's visual range. You can still however, lay traps outside it's visual range, then lure it to your trap fest.

3) Polymorph method: Works best if you cast Greater Malison and Doom beforehand, Lower Resistance will help too. Basically, you end up fighting a squirrel that cn wing buffet but nothing else. No magic casting, no melee attacks, no dragon's breath. Highly recommended for the laugh factor.

4) Fear method: Basically, you chase the Dragon around, instead of the other way round. As with Polymorph, Greater Malison, Doom and Lower Resistance will help.

5) Instant Kill method: Lvl 12 Chromatic Orb, Finger of Death, etc... ... GM, Doom and LR applies here as well. Be warned of using Petrify or Disintergrate though, you will end up destroying the loot too.

6) Chain Contingency Bomb method: If you are high enough level, store 3 Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wilting inside a Chain Contingency and set it to trigger to nearest enemy when enemy is sighted. Cast a Spell Trigger with 3 Lower Resistance the moment you see the Dragon. This method will either kill the Dragon outright, or bring it to near death. It's a confirm kill if you have two mages doing this.

7) Feeblemind method: If successful, Dragon will just stand there and let you hack away for free... ...

8) Hack it to death, with summons to help as well. This should provide the most 'thrills'. One of my favourite methods.

9) Others?

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If not a Sorcerer casting total oblivion, then a Paladin meting out justice. Otherwise, I think I will just be a bard and torture my enemies with, "My Heart Will Go On".

Platinium Sorcerer of ALSB, Aerie Loving Sacred Band! She's MeowRrrr, and more!

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Baldur's Gate Item Mart

Lord Ed · 09-25-2001, 02:28 PM

Thanks for the summary!

09-25-2001, 02:35 PM

Welcome to the forum Lord Ed

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demus · 09-25-2001, 05:08 PM

Dragon Slaying method 9

Firstly discover what breath weapon the dragon uses. Then, configure your best ranged fighter with items which will collectively give 100% resistance (and or scroll + potions) to the dragons type of breath weapon (eg. Red=fire, Silver=Cold etc.). Then attack the dragon with only the previousely configured character in sight of it. Now either lead it to a small gap it can't get through and nail it with the ranged weapon (very effective

) or if there are no nearby gaps, make sure the resisting character can move really fast and get the dragon to chase him/her whilst the rest of the party pepper it with powerful ranged weapons.
Result: 1 dead dragon, no dead party members (hopefully

)

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Aelia Jusa · 09-25-2001, 08:50 PM

Okay here is my patented, never-fail, dragon slaying technique. And yes, I am ashamed it had to come to this.

Jan uses spell trigger with three lower resistances.
Edwin casts time-stop as soon as the spell trigger goes off.
Edwin casts improved alacrity.
Edwin casts as many horrid wiltings as he can before the time stop runs out (about three).
Edwin casts time-stop again
Edwin repeats improved alacrity horrid wilting steps.
Dragon dies.

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Goddess and Sorceress of the HADB, and her sidekick Pink

floyd · 09-26-2001, 04:46 PM

By the time you can cast improved alacrity, time stop, etc. your tanks can probably just waste dragons anyway...

Aelia Jusa · 09-26-2001, 06:09 PM

Unfortunately no. I had to resort to this after about 10 tries on (spoiler) Abazigal, tanking and summoning. And Edwin does have the robe of vecna...

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09-24-2001, 06:17 PM	#1
Jason the Red Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: March 19, 2001 Location: Greenwood,IN,USA Posts: 39	You the man! I didn't even need the tanks, the Wild mage took care of the whole fight ! Bloody Dragon was dead in the second round! I am not using the mages to the full potential evidently. Thanks for the help!

09-25-2001, 01:21 AM	#2
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Awwww, you flatter me. Always glad to help a fellow Mage/Sorcerer. ------------------ If not a Sorcerer casting total oblivion, then a Paladin meting out justice. Otherwise, I think I will just be a bard and torture my enemies with, "My Heart Will Go On". Platinium Sorcerer of ALSB, Aerie Loving Sacred Band! She's MeowRrrr, and more! ------------------------- Baldur's Gate Item Mart

09-25-2001, 08:36 AM	#3
Lord Ed Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: March 1, 2001 Posts: 15	Would you please re-post the strategy to which you are referring or point me in the right direction to find it myself? Thanks, Lord Ed

09-25-2001, 11:32 AM	#4
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Strategy I gave for Jason the Red. Some methods to kill Dragons, some cheesy, some not. All of them work, because I personally took the effort to try them all out. 1) Cloudkill method: Widely popular among those who are not used to fighting Dragons yet, you basically cast multiple Cloudkills out of the Dragon's sight, The area of effect will hit the Dragon, but the Dragon will not fight back because it cannot see you. 2) Trap method: Mostly nerfed with ToB, but basically you lay traps galore around the Dragon before talking smack to it. Instant kill. In ToB however, do not use this method, the Dragon will go hostile if you lay traps within it's visual range. You can still however, lay traps outside it's visual range, then lure it to your trap fest. 3) Polymorph method: Works best if you cast Greater Malison and Doom beforehand, Lower Resistance will help too. Basically, you end up fighting a squirrel that cn wing buffet but nothing else. No magic casting, no melee attacks, no dragon's breath. Highly recommended for the laugh factor. 4) Fear method: Basically, you chase the Dragon around, instead of the other way round. As with Polymorph, Greater Malison, Doom and Lower Resistance will help. 5) Instant Kill method: Lvl 12 Chromatic Orb, Finger of Death, etc... ... GM, Doom and LR applies here as well. Be warned of using Petrify or Disintergrate though, you will end up destroying the loot too. 6) Chain Contingency Bomb method: If you are high enough level, store 3 Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wilting inside a Chain Contingency and set it to trigger to nearest enemy when enemy is sighted. Cast a Spell Trigger with 3 Lower Resistance the moment you see the Dragon. This method will either kill the Dragon outright, or bring it to near death. It's a confirm kill if you have two mages doing this. 7) Feeblemind method: If successful, Dragon will just stand there and let you hack away for free... ... 8) Hack it to death, with summons to help as well. This should provide the most 'thrills'. One of my favourite methods. 9) Others? ------------------ If not a Sorcerer casting total oblivion, then a Paladin meting out justice. Otherwise, I think I will just be a bard and torture my enemies with, "My Heart Will Go On". Platinium Sorcerer of ALSB, Aerie Loving Sacred Band! She's MeowRrrr, and more! ------------------------- Baldur's Gate Item Mart

09-25-2001, 02:28 PM	#5
Lord Ed Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: March 1, 2001 Posts: 15	Thanks for the summary!

09-25-2001, 02:35 PM	#6
www.cffl.com Guest Posts: n/a	Welcome to the forum Lord Ed ------------------ That is what Bin Laden is going to look like when we are done with him.

09-25-2001, 05:08 PM	#7
demus Manshoon Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: Hertfordshire (near London), England Age: 38 Posts: 206	Dragon Slaying method 9 Firstly discover what breath weapon the dragon uses. Then, configure your best ranged fighter with items which will collectively give 100% resistance (and or scroll + potions) to the dragons type of breath weapon (eg. Red=fire, Silver=Cold etc.). Then attack the dragon with only the previousely configured character in sight of it. Now either lead it to a small gap it can't get through and nail it with the ranged weapon (very effective ) or if there are no nearby gaps, make sure the resisting character can move really fast and get the dragon to chase him/her whilst the rest of the party pepper it with powerful ranged weapons. Result: 1 dead dragon, no dead party members (hopefully ) ------------------ Nicodemus Deathslayer, Paladin and Undead Hunter of the Order of the Holy Flame

09-25-2001, 08:50 PM	#8
Aelia Jusa Iron Throne Cult Join Date: August 23, 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 42 Posts: 4,867	Okay here is my patented, never-fail, dragon slaying technique. And yes, I am ashamed it had to come to this. Jan uses spell trigger with three lower resistances. Edwin casts time-stop as soon as the spell trigger goes off. Edwin casts improved alacrity. Edwin casts as many horrid wiltings as he can before the time stop runs out (about three). Edwin casts time-stop again Edwin repeats improved alacrity horrid wilting steps. Dragon dies. ------------------ Goddess and Sorceress of the HADB, and her sidekick Pink

09-26-2001, 04:46 PM	#9
floyd Zhentarim Guard Join Date: June 21, 2001 Posts: 306	By the time you can cast improved alacrity, time stop, etc. your tanks can probably just waste dragons anyway...

09-26-2001, 06:09 PM	#10
Aelia Jusa Iron Throne Cult Join Date: August 23, 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 42 Posts: 4,867	Unfortunately no. I had to resort to this after about 10 tries on (spoiler) Abazigal, tanking and summoning. And Edwin does have the robe of vecna... ------------------ Goddess and Sorceress of the HADB, and her sidekick Pink

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