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Old 02-03-2002, 05:35 AM   #1
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Hi everyone, i'm new.. I'm playing on BG2
when this horrible THINGY attacked me.
It just stands there and casts spells that immobilise my party.

i'm just a lil girl... help me please!
This was near the city gates? in some restaurant?

*giggles* it's all very exciting isn't it!

What does anyone think of Anomen,..
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Old 02-03-2002, 05:59 AM   #2
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Well, there are several good strategies for battling Liches. Perhaps the easiest is using a scroll of Protection from Undead, you can buy those at most temples. If you use one of those, the Lich doesn't even notice you while you pound away at him. Just send in one of your fighters and kill him while he just stands there wondering what's happening.
Otherwise, you'll have to rely heavily on magic. Cast all defensive spells you have before going into his tomb, and once inside, dispel his own protective spells with Breach and the like.

And about Anomen, I don't think he's as bad as you hear some people say. He's good at what he does, only a little arrogant. But this is coming from a guy who only plays male characters, so Anomen isn't the only choice I have for romance in the game.
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Old 02-03-2002, 06:07 AM   #3
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I second what J'aran said.
Oh, and Anomen; cant stand him!
He's so arrogant, aint a very good fighter, could be a better priest etc etc.
I pity all the female players out there, who only has him as a romance-opportunity (if you dont download a tweak, of course).

Btw, the pic in my sig is from my fight with that lich. [img]tongue.gif[/img]



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Old 02-03-2002, 06:41 AM   #4
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-giggles- Hello u 2...

It's really scary I get this chill when fighting liches because they wiggle about and do this dance thing and they look disgusting...

Protection from undead?
How do u get that?
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Old 02-03-2002, 04:48 PM   #5
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Hey Angel [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] welcome to the forum
Scrolls of protection can be got from most major shops/temples (adventurers mart has at least one of each) etc... Personally I only buy the protection from magic and undead scrolls and save them for the really hard fights as they are in limited supply.
As for Anomen, I also feel sorry that he is the only romance option available for female characters, I've never had him in my party for more than a couple of days as his voice got too much for me (sounds like an upper-class poof). What is your opinion on him?

Hope to read more of you
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Old 02-03-2002, 05:53 PM   #6
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I agree with saving the scrolls for harder fights due to the limit of what's available.

I've seen lichs start up the dialogue and right afterwards there is a small time frame where you can melee it. If your guys are hasted before the fight, they can lay some decent dmg to wear him thin if they can reach him in the few seconds you have. Afterwards he may time stop things. Prepare to take some fire damage here. He will also trigger 3 buffs. One could be the shield against magical weapons. Another of his buffs is the flame shield. And this is when you would want to use breach.

It's somewhat of a fast kill if you can buff up early on...I normally use chant, draw upon holy might, barkskin, aid, protection from fire, haste, and defensive harmony.

I keep all the melee guys spread around the lich and watch for when it says my weapons are ineffective. I then use the mage spell thrust or breach right when I see I can't melee it. Then attack again and if a guy is low on health I use a potion or pull him away from the fight to heal and go back in.

IF the lich gates in a pit fiend, I pull all my fighters away from the lich and use dispell. This will negate his protection from the fiend and "normally" makes the fiend turn on the lich. There is a spell that dispells only the enemy but forgot the name of it. If the pit fiend is beating up the lich, I then summon companions to use as fodder and check to see who is doing damage to who. If things go bad, you will be looking at a mad lich, a pit fiend, and an elemental.

This is just a basic method I use for a few encounters. Be careful using dispell since it affects your party too if they are in range.

About Anomen: I like his blade barrier spell and his self buff from his shield, his amount of hitpoints is decent, and of course when he and Aerie turn undead, it's fun to watch(try it in the graveyard sometime once ya ready or feeling risky). His melee does lack alot. So far he's been proven useful during the early stages of the game. May switch him out later on when I find other characters who are compatible with my group.
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Old 02-03-2002, 07:39 PM   #7
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EASIEST WAY GET YOSHIMO INSIDE THE TOMB while hiding in shadows pick the lock on the chest get the sword take it out side give it to your mage identify it give it to your fighter nd cast sunray ith the daystar
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Old 02-04-2002, 12:33 AM   #8
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quote:
Originally posted by PeeWee:
I agree with saving the scrolls for harder fights due to the limit of what's available.

I've seen lichs start up the dialogue and right afterwards there is a small time frame where you can melee it. If your guys are hasted before the fight, they can lay some decent dmg to wear him thin if they can reach him in the few seconds you have. Afterwards he may time stop things. Prepare to take some fire damage here. He will also trigger 3 buffs. One could be the shield against magical weapons. Another of his buffs is the flame shield. And this is when you would want to use breach.

It's somewhat of a fast kill if you can buff up early on...I normally use chant, draw upon holy might, barkskin, aid, protection from fire, haste, and defensive harmony.

I keep all the melee guys spread around the lich and watch for when it says my weapons are ineffective. I then use the mage spell thrust or breach right when I see I can't melee it. Then attack again and if a guy is low on health I use a potion or pull him away from the fight to heal and go back in.

IF the lich gates in a pit fiend, I pull all my fighters away from the lich and use dispell. This will negate his protection from the fiend and "normally" makes the fiend turn on the lich. There is a spell that dispells only the enemy but forgot the name of it. If the pit fiend is beating up the lich, I then summon companions to use as fodder and check to see who is doing damage to who. If things go bad, you will be looking at a mad lich, a pit fiend, and an elemental.

This is just a basic method I use for a few encounters. Be careful using dispell since it affects your party too if they are in range.

About Anomen: I like his blade barrier spell and his self buff from his shield, his amount of hitpoints is decent, and of course when he and Aerie turn undead, it's fun to watch(try it in the graveyard sometime once ya ready or feeling risky). His melee does lack alot. So far he's been proven useful during the early stages of the game. May switch him out later on when I find other characters who are compatible with my group.



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If you want an easier way to kill that lich this early in the game, haste one member of your party (you should have potions of speed by now; use one on your party's thief). Buy a potion of invisibility if you don't have one, and give it to the thief. Have them run in, unlock the chest in the room, and take the sword in there. Then drink the invisibility potion, and wait for the lich to cast time stop (he only has one of them). You'll be pretty scared, but remember, he can't target your thief while the invisibility is up, and the spells he casts while time stopped won't affect you until the time stop ends. So he'll waste a bunch of time casting true sights, then summoning a demon. As soon as you see that he summons the demon, leave, and go do other things for a while (go to Nalia's keep, do stuff around town, etc.). This will give time for his spell protections to wear off and the demon to go away (unlike players, monsters don't recover their spells). Make sure to identify the sword; it is very powerful against undead (like the lich). When you come back later, give the sword to your main fighter, haste the entire party and go in. Run your main fighter right up next to the lich, and use the sword's Sunray power. If this doesn't finish him off, it will weaken him greatly (just rush everyone up next to him and hack away until he drops). Bit cheesy to run away like that, but better to live to fight another day.

Anomen is an arrogant SOB, but put him in your party, and when the first of his quests kicks in (a courier comes up and tells him to return home), you'll see where he gets it from. If you do the good guy version of this quest (remember, vengeance without any proof of guilt is wrong), he'll eventually get knighted, which jumps his clerical abilities greatly. And unlike the other clerics in the game, a person who was a dual-class fighter can grandmaster in weapons (put five proficiency slots in a weapon, thus achieving the greatest skill you can with that weapon). He also goes up quickly as a cleric (since he dual-classed over, he does not divide up experience points between classes like Aerie and Jaheira). Admittedly, he is very obnoxious, especially as a romance, but if he gets knighted, he keeps his trap shut most of the time (and becomes a better cleric to boot). To get him knighted, just do the good guy version of his quest (you'll know what I mean when it happens; just remember that vengeance without proof of guilt is wrong). If you want someone to keep Anomen in his place until then, keep Yoshimo in your party. He does a great job of humiliating Anomen. Once you get his skill up in a weapon, and get the Gauntlets of Dexterity later on, he becomes quite good in combat. I'm playing ToB, and Anomen is right up front with Minsc, buttkicking for goodness.

Then again, if he irritates you too much, dump him and let Aerie cover your clerical needs (just use those healing potions that you accumulate along the way, since she can only memorize so many healing spells, and you eventually accumulate a lot of healing potions). Viconia works as well if you are neutral or evil in nature. But as a male player (who doesn't have to worry about his advances) he has been a valuable addition.

Hope this helps!
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Old 02-04-2002, 07:43 AM   #9
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Another two nice ways to kill a lich:

1. Cast Polymorph self and change into a mustard jelly. Then confront the lich with just the polymorphed character - as a mustard jelly you are 100% immune to magic. Do nothing just let him waste his spells on you. When your spell is about to expire or a monster summoned by the lich attacks you retreat and attack the then weakened lich with all your might. At this point the lich normally is no real problem any more.

2. Make as many of your tanks and thieves invisible as possible and haste them. Sneak up to the lich and pound away at him with the thieves backstabbing so he isn´t able to put up his defenses.

Both methods work fine for me against single high level spell casters.
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