Do Human Beings Have a Soul? - Page 4

Cloudbringer · 05-20-2002, 11:05 AM

Yes, I have no doubt whatsoever that I have a soul.

But I am highly suspicious of Donut's canine owning status.

[ 05-20-2002, 11:06 AM: Message edited by: Cloudbringer ]

uss · 05-20-2002, 11:24 AM

yes, souls exist!
its right between the heart and liver but you cant see it(njah! njah!)! dont get too excited when you find the tooth fairy, easter bunny and the christmas spirit over there too, along with Pinnochio, Alice and Snowwhite

Cloudbringer · 05-20-2002, 11:46 AM

hmm... I think that I shall decide that uss doesn't exist today. I mean, after all, I have no empirical proof that he/she/it does....hmmm......

Yorick · 05-20-2002, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aviendha:
Any of you who have kept in touch with the Satanism thread will realize where I'm coming from when I ask this question. I do not wish to cause arguments with my threads, so let's all keep it as a discussion! I am very interested to hear what people think about this subject, and why they think what they do.

Aviendha.

We had another thread with much disussion on this a while back. I wonder if someone knows the link?

AzureWolf · 05-20-2002, 12:16 PM

No I believe absolutely not to humans or anything for that matter having a soul [img]smile.gif[/img]

uss · 05-20-2002, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cloudbringer:
hmm... I think that I shall decide that uss doesn't exist today. I mean, after all, I have no empirical proof that he/she/it does....hmmm......

Cloudy, you.. ow, damn, im talking to myself again!
oh, its nothing, everybody.. theres just something called a "Cloudbringer"(?) going round and round my head

Ar-Cunin · 05-20-2002, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cloudbringer:
hmm... I think that I shall decide that uss doesn't exist today. I mean, after all, I have no empirical proof that he/she/it does....hmmm......

Sorry Cloudy - he posts far to much to be a figment of our imagination

And he's also right about the toothfarie etc. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Azred · 05-20-2002, 01:14 PM

There is no way to quantify or scientifically verify the existence of a soul; this is a matter of faith only. Almost. [img]graemlins/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif[/img]
Kurt Godel proved, years ago, that in any axiomatic system there are true theorems that cannot be proven using the axioms (or theorems built from the axioms) alone. Since the universe is an axiomatic system (the "laws" of physics are the axioms) there must be things that are true that cannot be proven using the laws of physics. Make of that what you will. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img]

If we don't have a soul then we are nothing more than sophisticated bio-electric computers. Do you want to put yourself in the same group as your desktop?

If we do have a soul then you must ask "Why?" and "What is its purpose?"; for these answers, simply fall back on the long tradition of theological thought from all over the world.

Yorick · 05-20-2002, 02:53 PM

I know I have a soul. I don't believe or suppose it. I know it.

No-one here can prove me wrong. All they can suggest is that they themselves have no soul.

I am not suggesting all humans have a soul.

How would I know? If someone is adamant that they have no soul, then I would believe them to perhaps be soulless. (or white

) I certainly couldn't prove them wrong.

However I know I have a soul. No-one here can prove me wrong.

Cloudbringer · 05-20-2002, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yorick:
We had another thread with much disussion on this a while back. I wonder if someone knows the link?[/QB]

Yes, Hugh, [img]smile.gif[/img] it was here, inside the Stem Cell research thread:

http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...;f=10;t=002364

Cloudy

05-20-2002, 11:05 AM	#31
Cloudbringer Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Upstate NY USA Posts: 19,737	Yes, I have no doubt whatsoever that I have a soul. But I am highly suspicious of Donut's canine owning status. [ 05-20-2002, 11:06 AM: Message edited by: Cloudbringer ] __________________ "Don't take life for granted." Animal (may he rest in peace)

05-20-2002, 11:46 AM	#33
Cloudbringer Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Upstate NY USA Posts: 19,737	hmm... I think that I shall decide that uss doesn't exist today. I mean, after all, I have no empirical proof that he/she/it does....hmmm...... __________________ "Don't take life for granted." Animal (may he rest in peace)

05-20-2002, 01:14 PM	#38
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 54 Posts: 4,037	There is no way to quantify or scientifically verify the existence of a soul; this is a matter of faith only. Almost. [img]graemlins/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif[/img] Kurt Godel proved, years ago, that in any axiomatic system there are true theorems that cannot be proven using the axioms (or theorems built from the axioms) alone. Since the universe is an axiomatic system (the "laws" of physics are the axioms) there must be things that are true that cannot be proven using the laws of physics. Make of that what you will. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img] If we don't have a soul then we are nothing more than sophisticated bio-electric computers. Do you want to put yourself in the same group as your desktop? If we do have a soul then you must ask "Why?" and "What is its purpose?"; for these answers, simply fall back on the long tradition of theological thought from all over the world. __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

05-20-2002, 02:53 PM	#39
Yorick Very Mad Bird Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam) Age: 52 Posts: 9,246	I know I have a soul. I don't believe or suppose it. I know it. No-one here can prove me wrong. All they can suggest is that they themselves have no soul. I am not suggesting all humans have a soul. How would I know? If someone is adamant that they have no soul, then I would believe them to perhaps be soulless. (or white ) I certainly couldn't prove them wrong. However I know I have a soul. No-one here can prove me wrong. __________________ http://www.hughwilson.com

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05-20-2002, 11:24 AM	#32
uss 20th Level Warrior Join Date: November 16, 2001 Location: Estonia Age: 35 Posts: 2,775	yes, souls exist! its right between the heart and liver but you cant see it(njah! njah!)! dont get too excited when you find the tooth fairy, easter bunny and the christmas spirit over there too, along with Pinnochio, Alice and Snowwhite

05-20-2002, 12:16 PM	#35
AzureWolf 20th Level Warrior Join Date: May 3, 2001 Location: . Age: 40 Posts: 2,762	No I believe absolutely not to humans or anything for that matter having a soul [img]smile.gif[/img]

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