Time Warner to Charge Extra for Over-Quota Bandwidth

RudeDawg · 04-09-2002, 12:47 AM

BAD news for all Time-Warner broadband subscribers.

NetWork News, in this article responding to the announcement, has this to say:

Time Warner: Bandwidth hogs, pay up!

Man, I love DSL....

[ 04-09-2002, 12:50 AM: Message edited by: RudeDawg ]

Grand-Ranger · 04-09-2002, 01:34 AM

Well my compurter doesnt have either DSL or Bandwith, it hardly has anything worth while. Well besdie a big monitor

Good to see you posting again Rudy.

Victor von Steiner · 04-09-2002, 02:48 PM

I am so glad I get my broadband thru my local cable company. I pay 43 buck a month canadian.

Thoran · 04-09-2002, 04:09 PM

Well I've had Time Warner since the origonal roadrunner Beta in Elmira... 7 years or so. I got cable modem for the open pipe, now it sounds like the pipe is not going to be open... and I'll be moving to DSL. I ALREADY pay more for the bandwidth I'm using... I will not be charged for actually USING the service they have advertised and sold.

If the limit is reasonable (10-20 gig per month) then I guess I could live with it, anything less would be unacceptable. A good dialup running 24/7 could transfer over 10gig in a month... for under 10 bucks. Their pricing had better be in line with that.

Charean · 04-09-2002, 08:51 PM

One would think this would raise a bru-ha-ha.

But nary a peep will actually be heard.

Remember when ATMs used to be FREE?!?!?! Now we are used to paying fees for using them.

Alas, it is frightening what the public will get used to.

Cloudbringer · 04-09-2002, 09:14 PM

Well, I'm keeping my roadrunner! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Larry_OHF · 04-09-2002, 10:54 PM

I agree with Cloudy.
I read nothing in the article to make me upset. In fact, since I am not a small business downloading huge amounts on a daily basis, I suppose I am one of the people that Time Warner is trying to protect. The article to me read that I will have faster connection speed if the big bullies out there are hog-tied and not allowed to run wild, thus opening up more space for the little people.

Cloudbringer · 04-09-2002, 11:01 PM

LOL! Nice descriptions Larry!

Seriously, I'm hardly likely to be a bandwidth hog! LOL

Thoran · 04-10-2002, 02:44 PM

I think the intention is Increased Revenue... not to improve your browsing experience.

But lets give em the benefit of the doubt... in which case the way they're going about solving the problem just doesn't make sense.

Limiting a person to X bytes per month to improve everyone else's browsing experience from 5-7 pm is like setting the speed limit to 40 on a road you want to reduce congestion on. Sure it'll drive a lot of people to take an alternate route, but your congestion points will STILL be congested.

Most big bandwidth users (I admit to being one) use relatively low bandwidth but use it CONSTANTLY. My primary bandwidth usage is music downloads and online games. Online Gaming is already USELESS during peak periods... so I don't do it then, and music downloads run relatively slowly (10-20kbytes/sec), but they run 24 hours a day.

The elimination of lots of guys like me from the user list WILL help the performance of email and browser types... but no more than if one of those guys left the service, so their argument just doesn't hold water.

If they were TRULY looking at QOS issues they would be using QOS TOOLS (yes they do exist) to manage the issue. The primary tool would be Bandwidth Throttling, which is to say that if you're in a high congestion period you limit the pipe size of the "Bandwidth Hogs" to improve the Quality of Service of everyone else. This is a much more logical solution that actually addresses the problem DIRECTLY instead of trying to improve it by attrition.

[ 04-10-2002, 03:20 PM: Message edited by: Thoran ]

Reeka · 04-10-2002, 03:06 PM

I would be curious to know the cost for how many gigs for how much cost. My forum gets 10gigs a month and that is sufficient. Does anyone know?

04-09-2002, 12:47 AM	#1
RudeDawg 20th Level Warrior Join Date: April 9, 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx, USA Age: 55 Posts: 2,830	BAD news for all Time-Warner broadband subscribers. NetWork News, in this article responding to the announcement, has this to say: Time Warner: Bandwidth hogs, pay up! Man, I love DSL.... [ 04-09-2002, 12:50 AM: Message edited by: RudeDawg ] __________________ [img]\"http://home.earthlink.net/~rudedawg/images/perin14.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />The RudeDawg, known in these Forgotten Realms as Perin LightEyes<br /><br />Think Different. Keeper of the Bunnies of Total Self Confidence <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[bunny]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/bunny.gif\" />

04-09-2002, 01:34 AM	#2
Grand-Ranger Galvatron Join Date: March 29, 2001 Location: Everywhere I wanna go its already where I am,cause I am already there Posts: 2,130	Well my compurter doesnt have either DSL or Bandwith, it hardly has anything worth while. Well besdie a big monitor Good to see you posting again Rudy. __________________ <br /><br />So if in the shaddows look behind you, because thats where the ranger will be.

04-09-2002, 08:51 PM	#5
Charean Hathor Join Date: March 6, 2001 Location: Waxahachie, TX Age: 60 Posts: 2,201	One would think this would raise a bru-ha-ha. But nary a peep will actually be heard. Remember when ATMs used to be FREE?!?!?! Now we are used to paying fees for using them. Alas, it is frightening what the public will get used to. __________________ And then there were 6.

04-09-2002, 09:14 PM	#6
Cloudbringer Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Upstate NY USA Posts: 19,737	Well, I'm keeping my roadrunner! [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ "Don't take life for granted." Animal (may he rest in peace)

04-09-2002, 10:54 PM	#7
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 48 Posts: 14,759	I agree with Cloudy. I read nothing in the article to make me upset. In fact, since I am not a small business downloading huge amounts on a daily basis, I suppose I am one of the people that Time Warner is trying to protect. The article to me read that I will have faster connection speed if the big bullies out there are hog-tied and not allowed to run wild, thus opening up more space for the little people. __________________

04-09-2002, 02:48 PM	#3
Victor von Steiner Silver Dragon Join Date: April 30, 2001 Location: Myth Drannor, Elven Court, Fareun Age: 53 Posts: 1,654	I am so glad I get my broadband thru my local cable company. I pay 43 buck a month canadian.

04-09-2002, 04:09 PM	#4
Thoran Galvatron Join Date: January 10, 2002 Location: Upstate NY Age: 56 Posts: 2,109	Well I've had Time Warner since the origonal roadrunner Beta in Elmira... 7 years or so. I got cable modem for the open pipe, now it sounds like the pipe is not going to be open... and I'll be moving to DSL. I ALREADY pay more for the bandwidth I'm using... I will not be charged for actually USING the service they have advertised and sold. If the limit is reasonable (10-20 gig per month) then I guess I could live with it, anything less would be unacceptable. A good dialup running 24/7 could transfer over 10gig in a month... for under 10 bucks. Their pricing had better be in line with that.

04-09-2002, 11:01 PM	#8
Cloudbringer Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Upstate NY USA Posts: 19,737	LOL! Nice descriptions Larry! Seriously, I'm hardly likely to be a bandwidth hog! LOL __________________ "Don't take life for granted." Animal (may he rest in peace)

04-10-2002, 02:44 PM	#9
Thoran Galvatron Join Date: January 10, 2002 Location: Upstate NY Age: 56 Posts: 2,109	I think the intention is Increased Revenue... not to improve your browsing experience. But lets give em the benefit of the doubt... in which case the way they're going about solving the problem just doesn't make sense. Limiting a person to X bytes per month to improve everyone else's browsing experience from 5-7 pm is like setting the speed limit to 40 on a road you want to reduce congestion on. Sure it'll drive a lot of people to take an alternate route, but your congestion points will STILL be congested. Most big bandwidth users (I admit to being one) use relatively low bandwidth but use it CONSTANTLY. My primary bandwidth usage is music downloads and online games. Online Gaming is already USELESS during peak periods... so I don't do it then, and music downloads run relatively slowly (10-20kbytes/sec), but they run 24 hours a day. The elimination of lots of guys like me from the user list WILL help the performance of email and browser types... but no more than if one of those guys left the service, so their argument just doesn't hold water. If they were TRULY looking at QOS issues they would be using QOS TOOLS (yes they do exist) to manage the issue. The primary tool would be Bandwidth Throttling, which is to say that if you're in a high congestion period you limit the pipe size of the "Bandwidth Hogs" to improve the Quality of Service of everyone else. This is a much more logical solution that actually addresses the problem DIRECTLY instead of trying to improve it by attrition. [ 04-10-2002, 03:20 PM: Message edited by: Thoran ]

04-10-2002, 03:06 PM	#10
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