02-04-2005, 05:01 AM | #51 |
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1) It's been statistically proven that 40-60% of people that watch FOX actually swallow their bald faced lies hook line and sinker. It is possible that you are in the other half (you claim to be and who am I to judge), but I hardly think that means that the service enhances your country's culture or intelligence level. 2) Multilateralism - why is it better? That is like asking "Democracy - why is it better than dictatorship". It is one person or country imposing their will on many. While I supported the removal of Saddam, my preference was clearly to have the thing done under the asupices of the UN or at least a much much wider cross section of the international community than our rather feeble coalition of the willing. Sadder still that the countries that were ridiculed (and in some cases still being persecuted) because they felt there was not overwhelming evidence of WOMD happened to eventually be found to be on the side of truth. 3) nuff said about THAT song . 4) Isolationism? No way at all to win friends and influence people is it? That is the attitude that encourages dislike and lack of respect. If isolationism had continued all the way through world war 11 some people say you might well be speaking a different language by now. Even the biggest of us can be picked apart if the whole world becomes our enemy. Why then would one not want to play their part in world affairs and trade etc. 5) A spot of agreement - kool [img]smile.gif[/img] 6) Yup - true I will grant you. In this particular case, I would have included the EU as well (if my spiel had not been asked to be about America). It is not so much your policies but the tit for tat war between you two that has created the uneven playing field for countries that have no desire to drain taxation revenues to subsidise agricultural products and keep some of the most ineficient farmers in the world rolling in the money. 7) No dude - not been listening to tecnophobes - you are talking to a Chemical Engineer that for 8 years was a food technologist. I am smart enough to make up my own mind thank you. While were at it, do you really think Monsanto is driven by benevolance to your fellow man or by big fat profits to greedy shareholders. Of course it is the latter - why would they fight so many law suits and class actions if it was the former?
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Morg went farther to explain He was speaking of ISLAMOFACIST. Now I understand that term is not used commonly (sp?),and therefore may not understood by everybody as to what Morg meant. "Islamofacist" is not all followers of Islam, but those that follow Islam in a facist manner, or conduct facist activities in their following of Islam. Morg may or may not have meant "Islamofacist" in that manner, I believe he did, based on the fact he went on to place the term "faithful" in bold type, setting it apart from the rest of the sentence for special consideration. As in "faithful" are only the followers Islam that beleive the way Islamofacists do. I can be wrong about that, but only Morg can tell me or anyone else if that was the meaning he was attempting to put forth. If Morg meant all followers of Islam then he would be a "religiousist" (Harrisism #2), since he also wnet on to explain that followers of Islam come in all colors, shapes, sizes, or other delinations that one wishes to use to show different Races of Humans.
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02-04-2005, 12:40 PM | #53 |
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Thank you John D, to further clarify, I have a very intense dislike for Islam, and Islamofascists, NOT muslims. People are people, and there are millions upon millions of muslims that are good honest moral people, by anyones code of morals, or conduct, Davros, Barry, Mel, John D, Majik, et al I've not checked your "where are you from" in over a year, because quite simply it doesn't matter. PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE.
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02-04-2005, 03:56 PM | #54 |
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1) True. This is the country that has turned "reality tv" into smash hits.
2) Point well taken. Consensus with one's neighbors is not necessarily a bad thing. 4) I suppose one must recall Meriadoc's speech to Treebeard about being "part of this world". 7) I was unaware of your previous profession; no disrepect intended. In fact, I was merely engaging in a little leg-pulling. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img] I have a degree in chemistry, myself, although I was not a CE so I defer to your more advanced level of technical knowledge here. No corporation exists for the purposes of benevolence. [img]graemlins/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif[/img]
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And its been good to trade some answers with someone without the usual right/left push and pull. Cheers.
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[/QUOTE]Perhaps you are mistaken, or Bush and Co has blown enough sunshine your way that you missed the obvious and widely reported. Let's start with the recent failure to get the signifcant minority of the Sunni's to participate in the elections. The elections were a crock and failed to represent the whole of Iraq. Casting the Sunni's aside is only going to strenghten and prolong the insurgency which will then become a civil war when, or rather if, U.S. forces ever leave. Anyway...The list of failures is long. Ranging from disbanding the Iraqi military soon after the invasion stage to failing to have enough troops on the ground during the initial occupation stage to stop widepspread crime and looting. To speak in general terms of what is illegal and immoral. According to international law, invading Iraq in the first was both illegal and waging offensive war is usually considered immoral. I think causing thousands of deaths is immoral. Iraq is more dangerous now, than when Saddam the terrible ruled. I think creating those conditions is immoral.
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[/QUOTE]Perhaps you are mistaken, or Bush and Co has blown enough sunshine your way that you missed the obvious and widely reported. Let's start with the recent failure to get the signifcant minority of the Sunni's to participate in the elections. The elections were a crock and failed to represent the whole of Iraq. Casting the Sunni's aside is only going to strenghten and prolong the insurgency which will then become a civil war when, or rather if, U.S. forces ever leave. Anyway...The list of failures is long. Ranging from disbanding the Iraqi military soon after the invasion stage to failing to have enough troops on the ground during the initial occupation stage to stop widepspread crime and looting. To speak in general terms of what is illegal and immoral. According to international law, invading Iraq in the first was both illegal and waging offensive war is usually considered immoral. I think causing thousands of deaths is immoral. Iraq is more dangerous now, than when Saddam the terrible ruled. I think creating those conditions is immoral. [/QUOTE]1) I doubt the same would have been said if the Former rulers(the white minority) of South Africa, had failed to vote in signifcant numbers in that countries first free elections. In fact I'll go so far as to say that "if insignifcant numbers of whites had voted in SA's first free elections many would be hootting and hol'aring with joy". In the same vein was the US elections of 1864 invalid because there were not signifcant southern voters? The Sunni's chose not to vote, elections are not decided by who does not participate, but by those that do participate. 2) The Iraqi military was disbanded because the country was starting fresh, the slate had to be wiped clean, no hold overs. When you start anew, you must start anew. The number of troops is an opinion, the people incharge of the operation believe the number is what was needed. There is no number of troops that would have stoped the insurgency completely. 3)Each of us must decide for ourselves what they beleive is moral and immoral.
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China doesn't care a whit for Kyoto, either. I doubt anyone will try to force them to comply, either. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]It doesn't hurt to set a good example though. America is the worlds leading consumer of natural resources, and Europe is actually leading the way in good environmental practice. Maybe this situation should be addressed? |
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Isn't it something like 5% of the worlds population but a third of the worlds pollution - there has to be some sort of responsibility here! China is still a developing nation - the US has the technology to have a real stab at alternative technology now. We focus on the US because it's the worst offender. By far. Not because of anti-Americanism or anything like that, simply because America is the biggest 'problem'.
What's really bad is that Kyoto is only a small amount of what actually needs to be done, yet even that is considered unaceptable by the US. It does not bode well for the future. You'd think that with such a faith-based agenda, the Bush government would have taken stewardship views of the environment a bit more seriously [ 02-07-2005, 09:40 PM: Message edited by: shamrock_uk ] |
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