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Old 07-05-2010, 05:06 AM   #161
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I agree that it is cheating, and that he knew it what the penalty of his actions was. If you think about, this guy single-handedly cheated an entire country out of a shot at a title. If this was an exhibition match, I would say that a two game suspension would be fair. But at this level of play, this guy should be banned for at least 4 years, including the next tournament (assuming Uruguay was to qualify). Other great players would never, ever, consider doing something this despicable.
Ehm...excuse me, but every player in his right mind would have done exactly the same, be it thought through, or an impulsive reaction. It's either blocking the ball with your hands, or allow a goal with less than a minute on the clock. This has been spoken over by many journalists and players alike, and they all agree on one thing....it's a last resort, and all would have done the same if given the choice. If a player is about to break through your defense and has an open shot on your goal...would you not set in a tackle from behind to eliminate that threat? Sure, the concequence would be a red card, but the result would be NO goal for the opposite side, and thus a fair chance to still win the game. Professional players make fouls like this all the time, haven't you seen how Inter won the CL this year? The teams that play dominant attractive football like ManU, Barcelona, or Arsenal, sometimes get outsmarted by dirty playing teams like Inter, that's how it works in football.

I still don't agree that it's cheating. It's breaking the rules and face the concequences. Nobody here would have made an issue out of this if that Ghanese player would have made that penalty, but the idiot missed a golden opportunity to shoot Ghana into the semi's, well...sorry you had your shot, you missed it, so byebye. There's many examples of players that influenced the outcome of a game by using their hands, and none of them were ever seriously punished for it, even though there was footage to back up the case against them. Ask the English and the Irish, i'm sure they have lots to tell ya about that.

To make a long story short...players have and always WILL use their hands if it improves their chances of winning a game, and by not getting seriously punished for it, FIFA only stimulates this type of behaviour.
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Old 07-05-2010, 10:00 AM   #162
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Suarez is being arrogant and a jerk about it though...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...10/8785140.stm

I mean proud of breaking a rule? What kind of message does that send? And FIFA are ridiculous to ban him for just one match.
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Old 07-05-2010, 11:23 AM   #163
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Why? His Uruguay has reached semi final, what's not to be proud of it?

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Old 07-05-2010, 02:50 PM   #164
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You're mistaken if you think he's being banned because of a hand ball in the penalty box. Or because of a hand ball on the goal line to prevent a certain goal.

He's being banned for one game because he got a red card. That's the standard penalty for getting a red... out the next game. Apparently the rules committee may be considering extending his ban for a second game. But that's for "sportsmanship". Up to them.

It is *NO* different from deliberately committing a foul in any other game, knowing that you'll have to accept the penalties that come with it. Hooking a guy on a hockey breakaway, deliberately fouling someone in the last minutes of a basketball game, pitchers throwing at batters in baseball... I'm sure the list of sports and gamesmanship goes on.

You can't change the rules retroactively.
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Old 07-06-2010, 05:33 AM   #165
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Straight red card automatically brings a one match ban and goes to disciplinary committee, which decides whether to extend it or not. FIFA decided not to extend his ban because they did not consider it unsportsmanlike...

I'm not criticising Suarez for committing the foul. He did what he had to do...but the rules are seriously messed up if breaking them is a better thing than following them...penalties aren't harsh enough by far. At least the ref saw things this time and did what he had to.
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Old 07-06-2010, 06:29 AM   #166
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Very bad.

Squid Paul the oracel ate the mussels from the plate with the spain flag. So they will win the match against our team.

(Nice superstition .)
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:38 AM   #167
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Paul got the last Spain - Germany result wrong though...
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:41 AM   #168
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Edit : What did Paul choose for uruguay vs orenje ?
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Old 07-06-2010, 12:20 PM   #169
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Whatever he chose...we will first eat Uruguay, and after we'll have that ugly looking thing for dessert too.
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Old 07-06-2010, 08:29 PM   #170
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I AM DRUUUUNK!!!
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