A Debate on Homosexuality

Avatar · 01-09-2002, 08:57 AM

This is a debate which I hope will not involve deviation, spamming [img]graemlins/spam2.gif[/img] and fights.
I will ask the mods to close this topic if the discussion gets out of hand. [img]graemlins/agree.gif[/img]

There was a splendid discussion on BBC Radio 4 last lunch time. It was a phone in debate where a range of views was presented.

The motion is:

" has society gone far enough to recongnising homosexuality " [img]graemlins/yippee.gif[/img]

Although this debate will have different arguments at different parts of the world. But be that as it may and let it be an element of this debate.

In Britain, laws of allowed homosexuality in armies. Is this allowed in other countries? What does the bible say about it?

What are your views?

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Moiraine · 01-09-2002, 09:05 AM

Live and let live, is what I say.

Neb · 01-09-2002, 09:05 AM

Well, I've no problem with homosexuals, it's their choice entirely, if they want to be wed, no problem there either.

What I've got a problem with is when they want to have children, in my opinion they'll end up with a kinda strange view of the world since they'll have two mothers or two fathers, of course, so many who have had both a mother and a father end up like this as well, but that's just my point of view, feel free to ignore or flame it as you please.

Moiraine · 01-09-2002, 09:10 AM

Better, for a kid, to live with two people who love each other, or with a father and a mother who throw things at each other's head every day, or in an orphanage ?

WOLFGIR · 01-09-2002, 09:11 AM

I give you my view of it, the other things comes right now to too close to politics..

Most honest answer would probably be this, I don´t care enough to be bothered whether a person is gay or not, as long as he/she is happy and doesn´t harm anyone I don´t bother with it. They can live their lives as they like. I see this is a point in my "humanism" perception of life. They are people just like anyone else so why bother and make a big deal out of it? And yes, I think it (insert bad word here) that they are treated differently and being er how do you say it, prosecuted?? for their lifestyle or you know, treated unfair plain and simple..

Sir ReGiN · 01-09-2002, 09:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Neb:

What I've got a problem with is when they want to have children, in my opinion they'll end up with a kinda strange view of the world since they'll have two mothers or two fathers, of course, so many who have had both a mother and a father end up like this as well, but that's just my point of view, feel free to ignore or flame it as you please.

What would be strange about it?
See, it wouldn't be strange, it would be different, but I can't see why that would be a bad thing..

Avatar · 01-09-2002, 09:13 AM

As Oscar Wilde said: (this might not be exact)

"we are not on this earth to air our prejudices. life is too short for that."

Neb · 01-09-2002, 09:25 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Moiraine:
Better, for a kid, to live with two people who love each other, or with a father and a mother who throw things at each other's head every day, or in an orphanage ?

I suppose you've got a point there, but now consider this, either two fathers who love each other, or two mothers who love each other, or a father and a mother who love each other, which would you say would be best for the child?

WOLFGIR · 01-09-2002, 09:31 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Neb:

I suppose you've got a point there, but now consider this, either two fathers who love each other, or two mothers who love each other, or a father and a mother who love each other, which would you say would be best for the child?

Easy,

the ones that loves the kid!

adam warlock · 01-09-2002, 10:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by WOLFGIR:

Easy, the ones that loves the kid!

Yep and the kid that love their parents

01-09-2002, 08:57 AM	#1
Avatar Vampire Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: Cambridge Age: 40 Posts: 3,877	This is a debate which I hope will not involve deviation, spamming [img]graemlins/spam2.gif[/img] and fights. I will ask the mods to close this topic if the discussion gets out of hand. [img]graemlins/agree.gif[/img] There was a splendid discussion on BBC Radio 4 last lunch time. It was a phone in debate where a range of views was presented. The motion is: " has society gone far enough to recongnising homosexuality " [img]graemlins/yippee.gif[/img] Although this debate will have different arguments at different parts of the world. But be that as it may and let it be an element of this debate. In Britain, laws of allowed homosexuality in armies. Is this allowed in other countries? What does the bible say about it? What are your views? [ 01-09-2002: Message edited by: Avatar ] [ 01-09-2002: Message edited by: Avatar ] __________________ <b>Ê†ë®Ñï†Ý \'s Avariel<br /></b><br />Creator and Mithril Protector of the ALSB Clan <br /> [img]\"http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/avatar.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

01-09-2002, 09:05 AM	#2
Moiraine Anubis Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Up in the Freedomland Alps Age: 59 Posts: 2,474	Live and let live, is what I say. __________________ [img]\"http://grumble.free.fr/img/romuald.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br /><br />The missing link between ape and man is us.

01-09-2002, 09:10 AM	#4
Moiraine Anubis Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Up in the Freedomland Alps Age: 59 Posts: 2,474	Better, for a kid, to live with two people who love each other, or with a father and a mother who throw things at each other's head every day, or in an orphanage ? __________________ [img]\"http://grumble.free.fr/img/romuald.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br /><br />The missing link between ape and man is us.

01-09-2002, 09:11 AM	#5
WOLFGIR Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 3,450	I give you my view of it, the other things comes right now to too close to politics.. Most honest answer would probably be this, I don´t care enough to be bothered whether a person is gay or not, as long as he/she is happy and doesn´t harm anyone I don´t bother with it. They can live their lives as they like. I see this is a point in my "humanism" perception of life. They are people just like anyone else so why bother and make a big deal out of it? And yes, I think it (insert bad word here) that they are treated differently and being er how do you say it, prosecuted?? for their lifestyle or you know, treated unfair plain and simple.. __________________ Don´t eat the yellow snow

01-09-2002, 09:11 AM	#6
Sir ReGiN Gold Dragon Join Date: August 11, 2001 Location: The land of blonde virgins Age: 42 Posts: 2,563	quote: Originally posted by Neb: What I've got a problem with is when they want to have children, in my opinion they'll end up with a kinda strange view of the world since they'll have two mothers or two fathers, of course, so many who have had both a mother and a father end up like this as well, but that's just my point of view, feel free to ignore or flame it as you please. What would be strange about it? See, it wouldn't be strange, it would be different, but I can't see why that would be a bad thing..

01-09-2002, 09:05 AM	#3
Neb Account deleted by Request Join Date: May 17, 2001 Location: . Age: 38 Posts: 8,802	Well, I've no problem with homosexuals, it's their choice entirely, if they want to be wed, no problem there either. What I've got a problem with is when they want to have children, in my opinion they'll end up with a kinda strange view of the world since they'll have two mothers or two fathers, of course, so many who have had both a mother and a father end up like this as well, but that's just my point of view, feel free to ignore or flame it as you please.

01-09-2002, 09:13 AM	#7
Avatar Vampire Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: Cambridge Age: 40 Posts: 3,877	As Oscar Wilde said: (this might not be exact) "we are not on this earth to air our prejudices. life is too short for that." __________________ <b>Ê†ë®Ñï†Ý \'s Avariel<br /></b><br />Creator and Mithril Protector of the ALSB Clan <br /> [img]\"http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/avatar.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

01-09-2002, 09:25 AM	#8
Neb Account deleted by Request Join Date: May 17, 2001 Location: . Age: 38 Posts: 8,802	quote: Originally posted by Moiraine: Better, for a kid, to live with two people who love each other, or with a father and a mother who throw things at each other's head every day, or in an orphanage ? I suppose you've got a point there, but now consider this, either two fathers who love each other, or two mothers who love each other, or a father and a mother who love each other, which would you say would be best for the child?

01-09-2002, 09:31 AM	#9
WOLFGIR Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 50 Posts: 3,450	quote: Originally posted by Neb: I suppose you've got a point there, but now consider this, either two fathers who love each other, or two mothers who love each other, or a father and a mother who love each other, which would you say would be best for the child? Easy, the ones that loves the kid! __________________ Don´t eat the yellow snow

01-09-2002, 10:44 AM	#10
adam warlock Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: I live inside of my mind..... Age: 53 Posts: 3,234	quote: Originally posted by WOLFGIR: Easy, the ones that loves the kid! Yep and the kid that love their parents __________________ [url]\"http://motdw.comicgenesis.com\" target=\"_blank\"><br /> [img]\"http://motdw.keenspace.com/images/lymanimaca.txt\" alt=\" - \" /></a><br /><br />my karma ran over your dogma

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