Berserker Darts -- how do these things work?

krunchyfrogg · 10-01-2005, 02:29 PM

Do they cause my target to go berserk, or the person throwing the darts?

Azred · 10-01-2005, 07:42 PM

They cause the target to go berserk. Use them like any other dart.

krunchyfrogg · 10-02-2005, 08:51 AM

Nice against spellcasters!

Thanks for the info, the text isn't clear.

[ 10-02-2005, 08:52 AM: Message edited by: krunchyfrogg ]

Aerich · 10-04-2005, 12:42 AM

Nah, it's only a 10% chance. I usually sell the beserker darts, for I dislike darts on principle. Good speed factor, useless damage. Stun darts aren't bad.

ister · 10-04-2005, 08:46 AM

Ugh. Let me try again. Damage from darts is better than damage from slings unless you're a fighter with exceptional strength (i.e., 18/xx). For mages and druids they are by far the best missile weapon (where by 'best' I mean that they inflict the most damage). For fighters they are competitive with slings unless you have specialization or are above level 7.

It's just wrong to say that the damage is useless. Simple table at base APR without strength modification:
Damage per round:
composite bow - 6-16 x hit prob (average 11)
short or long bow - 2-12 x hit prob (average 7)
heavy crossbow - 3-10 x hit prob (average 6.5)
light crossbow - 1-8 x hit prob (average 4.5)
throwing axe - 2-7 x hit prob (average 4.5)
throwing dagger - 2-8 x hit prob (average 5)
sling - 2-5 x hit prob (average 3.5)
dart - 3-9 x hit prob (average 6)

Now strength bonuses and specialization count against darts, as will higher warrior aprs at higher levels. But the damage is just fine.

Aerich · 10-04-2005, 11:02 PM

Don't darts have a restricted throwing range? I think that's the main reason why I mentally crossed them off my list of "decent weapons to use".

ister · 10-05-2005, 08:47 AM

Yeah that's true. The character throwing darts will close before attacking, so is pretty likely to be targeted.

Kyrvias · 10-19-2005, 09:11 PM

but, with a 10% chance of target going berserk, and the high RoF, you are pretty much set against spellcasters. Ten darts and you've got one crazy mage

Aerich · 10-20-2005, 12:00 AM

Bah, I'd rather spend the three rounds hitting them with something better than glorified knitting needles. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

10-01-2005, 02:29 PM	#1
krunchyfrogg Red Dragon Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: NY, USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,516	Do they cause my target to go berserk, or the person throwing the darts? __________________ <i>A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives.</i><br />- Jackie Robinson<br /><br /> [img]\"http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3353/salsashark7xl.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

10-01-2005, 07:42 PM	#2
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 54 Posts: 4,037	They cause the target to go berserk. Use them like any other dart. __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

10-02-2005, 08:51 AM	#3
krunchyfrogg Red Dragon Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: NY, USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,516	Nice against spellcasters! Thanks for the info, the text isn't clear. [ 10-02-2005, 08:52 AM: Message edited by: krunchyfrogg ] __________________ <i>A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives.</i><br />- Jackie Robinson<br /><br /> [img]\"http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3353/salsashark7xl.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

10-04-2005, 12:42 AM	#4
Aerich Lord Ao Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 42 Posts: 2,061	Nah, it's only a 10% chance. I usually sell the beserker darts, for I dislike darts on principle. Good speed factor, useless damage. Stun darts aren't bad. __________________ Where there is a great deal of free speech, there is always a certain amount of foolish speech. - Winston S. Churchill

10-04-2005, 08:46 AM	#5
ister Drow Warrior Join Date: January 12, 2005 Location: usa Age: 56 Posts: 291	Ugh. Let me try again. Damage from darts is better than damage from slings unless you're a fighter with exceptional strength (i.e., 18/xx). For mages and druids they are by far the best missile weapon (where by 'best' I mean that they inflict the most damage). For fighters they are competitive with slings unless you have specialization or are above level 7. It's just wrong to say that the damage is useless. Simple table at base APR without strength modification: Damage per round: composite bow - 6-16 x hit prob (average 11) short or long bow - 2-12 x hit prob (average 7) heavy crossbow - 3-10 x hit prob (average 6.5) light crossbow - 1-8 x hit prob (average 4.5) throwing axe - 2-7 x hit prob (average 4.5) throwing dagger - 2-8 x hit prob (average 5) sling - 2-5 x hit prob (average 3.5) dart - 3-9 x hit prob (average 6) Now strength bonuses and specialization count against darts, as will higher warrior aprs at higher levels. But the damage is just fine. __________________ \" Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.\"<br />JFK

10-04-2005, 11:02 PM	#6
Aerich Lord Ao Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 42 Posts: 2,061	Don't darts have a restricted throwing range? I think that's the main reason why I mentally crossed them off my list of "decent weapons to use". __________________ Where there is a great deal of free speech, there is always a certain amount of foolish speech. - Winston S. Churchill

10-05-2005, 08:47 AM	#7
ister Drow Warrior Join Date: January 12, 2005 Location: usa Age: 56 Posts: 291	Yeah that's true. The character throwing darts will close before attacking, so is pretty likely to be targeted. __________________ \" Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.\"<br />JFK

10-19-2005, 09:11 PM	#8
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	but, with a 10% chance of target going berserk, and the high RoF, you are pretty much set against spellcasters. Ten darts and you've got one crazy mage

10-20-2005, 12:00 AM	#9
Aerich Lord Ao Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 42 Posts: 2,061	Bah, I'd rather spend the three rounds hitting them with something better than glorified knitting needles. [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Where there is a great deal of free speech, there is always a certain amount of foolish speech. - Winston S. Churchill

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