Mage Dagger "not suitable for backstab"

krunchyfrogg · 10-15-2005, 12:41 AM

I was so pleased when my thief dualled to an illusionist found a mage dagger. I thought that whenver he was dragged into combat, I could now sneak attack for a little bonus.

Nope, it's not suitable for backstabbing, for some reason.

Oh well.

Aerich · 10-15-2005, 02:48 AM

That's silly. I guess you'll have to exhaust those extra spells then pick another weapon.

I can't remember if I never knew that, or just forgot. Anyway, you know you're cutting it too close if you're using a mage/thief in melee combat.

Kyrvias · 10-19-2005, 08:55 PM

If they have enough invis. potions and/or spells, I forsee no problems

NobleNick · 10-20-2005, 09:55 AM

Kyrvias,

I think what Aerich is saying is that if you **have** to use the M/T to melee, you are cutting it too close: there are other builds --that you should have in your party-- that are much better at this kind of stuff.

As the owner of a M/T, I know how easy it is to get the character into melee inadvertently. If you are just doing it because you like to excercise or explore new tactics, or just enjoy riding the thin red line, then have at it.

--------------------
What's a party,
without a song?
Bards ROCK!
Party On!!

Kyrvias · 10-20-2005, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NobleNick:

If you are just doing it because you like to excercise or explore new tactics, or just enjoy riding the thin red line, then have at it.

--------------------
What's a party,
without a song?
Bards ROCK!
Party On!!

Exactly what I was trying to get at. With a few spells, such as invisibility and maybe hold person and charm person, you can have a mage thief that is really handy in melee combat.

Dundee Slaytern · 10-21-2005, 10:42 PM

Generally speaking.

The Mage Dagger is not usable by pureclassed Thieves.

You can only backstab with weapons usable by pureclassed Thieves.

Kyrvias · 10-22-2005, 01:17 PM

hmm. That explains alot

10-15-2005, 12:41 AM	#1
krunchyfrogg Red Dragon Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: NY, USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,516	I was so pleased when my thief dualled to an illusionist found a mage dagger. I thought that whenver he was dragged into combat, I could now sneak attack for a little bonus. Nope, it's not suitable for backstabbing, for some reason. Oh well. __________________ <i>A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives.</i><br />- Jackie Robinson<br /><br /> [img]\"http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3353/salsashark7xl.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

10-15-2005, 02:48 AM	#2
Aerich Lord Ao Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 42 Posts: 2,061	That's silly. I guess you'll have to exhaust those extra spells then pick another weapon. I can't remember if I never knew that, or just forgot. Anyway, you know you're cutting it too close if you're using a mage/thief in melee combat. __________________ Where there is a great deal of free speech, there is always a certain amount of foolish speech. - Winston S. Churchill

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10-19-2005, 08:55 PM	#3
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	If they have enough invis. potions and/or spells, I forsee no problems

10-20-2005, 09:55 AM	#4
NobleNick Quintesson Join Date: February 5, 2002 Location: Huntsville, AL, USA Age: 63 Posts: 1,045	Kyrvias, I think what Aerich is saying is that if you have to use the M/T to melee, you are cutting it too close: there are other builds --that you should have in your party-- that are much better at this kind of stuff. As the owner of a M/T, I know how easy it is to get the character into melee inadvertently. If you are just doing it because you like to excercise or explore new tactics, or just enjoy riding the thin red line, then have at it. -------------------- What's a party, without a song? Bards ROCK! Party On!!

10-21-2005, 10:42 PM	#6
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Generally speaking. The Mage Dagger is not usable by pureclassed Thieves. You can only backstab with weapons usable by pureclassed Thieves.

10-22-2005, 01:17 PM	#7
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	hmm. That explains alot

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