robe of the apprenti vs robe of vecna

deathknight · 07-18-2001, 04:58 PM

Ok the subject says it all. I am playing a kensai mage and I am trying to determine the best robe for me. Do I want 2 lower AC or do I want the magic resistance and increased casting rate? I think my character is a work in progress so I can't really say for certain how much frontline fighting there will be vs casting spells from relative safety. With stoneskins and such I would tend to think I could sacrifice 2 ac for the magic resistance and casting speed bonuses (4 seems alot to me. is this a very noticable difference?)

Thanks

07-18-2001, 05:02 PM

the casting speed makes a lot of diff. if you have amulet of conster damon obtained from aran linvail which speeds your casting time by 1 you can cast spells at -5, this means fireballs instanly, abi-dalzeems at fireball speed. its well worth it.

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koz-ivan · 07-18-2001, 05:02 PM

vecana's robe is imo one of the best single items in the game, the speed boost to casting is incredibly powerful. if you like to cast spells in combat.

if you use your kensai mage as a frontline ftr and only cast spells between combat then go w/ the lower ac.

FallenPaladin · 07-18-2001, 05:04 PM

Robe of Vecna, certainly. That casting reduction really makes a difference, you'll be able to let loose death spells and fireballs immediately, and with most of the protective spells at your disposal the AC reduction of the Apprenti robe won't be worth it. Besides I'd say better saving throws are more important for a mage than AC anyway.

Azred · 07-18-2001, 05:10 PM

All mages should strive for the Robe of Vecna as quickly as possible. The speed with which your spells may be cast is invaluable.

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deathknight · 07-18-2001, 05:13 PM

Well glad to see most are thinking like I originally was hehe. I thought -4 speed would be huge altough I have never used the robe. Looks like i am getting that for sure.

dimon37 · 07-18-2001, 05:15 PM

I would support the robe of vecna approach. For rally good AC simply cast spirit armor - reduces your AC to 1!, robe of aprenti does not even come close. Besides, in order to get it you have to give up something more valueble then money.

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07-18-2001, 04:58 PM	#1
deathknight Drow Warrior Join Date: July 13, 2001 Location: Niles,Il USA Posts: 298	Ok the subject says it all. I am playing a kensai mage and I am trying to determine the best robe for me. Do I want 2 lower AC or do I want the magic resistance and increased casting rate? I think my character is a work in progress so I can't really say for certain how much frontline fighting there will be vs casting spells from relative safety. With stoneskins and such I would tend to think I could sacrifice 2 ac for the magic resistance and casting speed bonuses (4 seems alot to me. is this a very noticable difference?) Thanks

07-18-2001, 05:02 PM	#2
Dramnek_Ulk Guest Posts: n/a	the casting speed makes a lot of diff. if you have amulet of conster damon obtained from aran linvail which speeds your casting time by 1 you can cast spells at -5, this means fireballs instanly, abi-dalzeems at fireball speed. its well worth it. ------------------ It was then that Toril knew the return of Lord Bane

07-18-2001, 05:02 PM	#3
koz-ivan Manshoon Join Date: March 14, 2001 Location: boston, ma, us Posts: 164	vecana's robe is imo one of the best single items in the game, the speed boost to casting is incredibly powerful. if you like to cast spells in combat. if you use your kensai mage as a frontline ftr and only cast spells between combat then go w/ the lower ac.

07-18-2001, 05:04 PM	#4
FallenPaladin Dungeon Master Join Date: July 5, 2001 Posts: 98	Robe of Vecna, certainly. That casting reduction really makes a difference, you'll be able to let loose death spells and fireballs immediately, and with most of the protective spells at your disposal the AC reduction of the Apprenti robe won't be worth it. Besides I'd say better saving throws are more important for a mage than AC anyway.

07-18-2001, 05:10 PM	#5
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 54 Posts: 4,037	All mages should strive for the Robe of Vecna as quickly as possible. The speed with which your spells may be cast is invaluable. ------------------ An intelligent mind is the key to the universe. The most distressing thing about practicing magic is the fact that even the most learned sorcerers cannot accurately describe what magic is.... Who are you? What do you want?

07-18-2001, 05:13 PM	#6
deathknight Drow Warrior Join Date: July 13, 2001 Location: Niles,Il USA Posts: 298	Well glad to see most are thinking like I originally was hehe. I thought -4 speed would be huge altough I have never used the robe. Looks like i am getting that for sure.

07-18-2001, 05:15 PM	#7
dimon37 Zhentarim Guard Join Date: March 26, 2001 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 349	I would support the robe of vecna approach. For rally good AC simply cast spirit armor - reduces your AC to 1!, robe of aprenti does not even come close. Besides, in order to get it you have to give up something more valueble then money.

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