01-14-2003, 12:22 AM | #11 | |
Manshoon
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5th level cleric spell - champion's strength +6 str start adding ability points (every 4th level up) to strength... and that's about as good as it's going to get for you. on the plus side your monk must be fairly hard to hit, no? |
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01-14-2003, 02:35 AM | #12 | |
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but then again I'll stop here. I don't want to argue with a mod. I just don't like to be branded a cheater just because I try to point out how to improve a monk. * shake head * [ 01-14-2003, 04:58 AM: Message edited by: Kakero ] |
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01-14-2003, 06:01 AM | #13 | |
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But I take it you're not familiar with the official third edition D&D rules, nor care much about them whatsoever... Else you would realize what Luvian is trying to explain to you. [ 01-14-2003, 06:01 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ] |
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01-14-2003, 06:09 PM | #14 |
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The man is trying to play a GAME the best way he knows how, dont beat him up because he isnt playing the game the way you think the game should be played.
Shame on you all!
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01-14-2003, 10:59 PM | #15 | |
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Granted, I would never recommend someone Min/Max when creating a character, but I wouldn't call it cheating. There absolutely *should* be drawbacks to creating such a dimwit character, but there aren't. Your analogy should, IMO, be modified to read "playing poker with someone who doesn't know what the Wild Cards are, but *should*". It's the game that's flawed for allowing it, not necessarily the players who use what's available to them (although, I must stress again, I don't do it myself & don't recommend it to anyone who really wants to enjoy the game). - Imrahil |
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01-15-2003, 12:43 AM | #16 |
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I'm just telling my opinion, I am not forcing anyone to play my way, and I'm certainly not beating anyone up.
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01-15-2003, 03:20 AM | #17 |
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Actually... there is a difference between powergaming and outright cheating.
When a person powergames, he exploits every nook and cranny of the game and uses loopholes to the best of his advantage. Whatever he does is legitimate and not illegal. Ergo, he is not cheating, but he is certainly not roleplaying either. When a person cheats, he uses tools to aid him in ways that were not possible in the first place, like maxing out every single stat to the max. Or give his characters the best equipment at the start of the game. Stuff like that. In conclusion, the only thing that Kakero is guilty of, is powergaming, something that a lot of players do, but he is not cheating, and he is not exploiting any bug either. |
01-15-2003, 05:03 AM | #18 |
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thanks Dundee, your explaination really hit the spot. how I wish my english is as good as yours. too bad there's no good japanese to english translator around.
powergaming...never heard that before. looks like I learn a new word today. ps. I also learn that poker is cho tai ti. now I know. [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 01-15-2003, 06:09 AM: Message edited by: Kakero ] |
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I have seen tons of posts in wich people said things like: Quote:
You are mixing exploiters and powergamers. Lots of powergamers exploit games, but not all powergamer do. I am a powergamer, but I don't use the game in ways it was not intended. I'm going to max my character primary stats, even if I know not all mages have the max int, or not all rogues have the max dext. I will choose what weapon skills to master based on the most powerfull weapons that are in the game. But I never will use things the way they are not intended. Exploiting a game, and using an editor to max your stats is cheating in both case, it's just that one of those is a lot worse than the other. Claiming anything else is a moral fallacy.
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01-15-2003, 10:47 PM | #20 |
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I liked Dundee's explanation better. We only had two categories. Now, I have to try and figure out between exploiting, cheating, or being a powermonger...
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