Visit the Ironworks Gaming Website Email the Webmaster Graphics Library Rules and Regulations Help Support Ironworks Forum with a Donation to Keep us Online - We rely totally on Donations from members Donation goal Meter

Ironworks Gaming Radio

Ironworks Gaming Forum

Go Back   Ironworks Gaming Forum > Ironworks Gaming Forums > General Discussion
FAQ Calendar Arcade Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-15-2004, 12:42 PM   #1
Grojlach
Zartan
 

Join Date: May 2, 2001
Location: Ulpia Noviomagus Batavorum
Age: 43
Posts: 5,281
Next time anyone's trying to defend WorldNetDaily's credibility, I know what I'll be linking to. This is just wrong in so many ways...

http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=1617
Quote:
"Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed! A Small Lesson in Conservatism" is a wonderful way to teach young children the valuable lessons of conservatism. In simple text, parents and children follow Tommy and Lou on their quest to earn money for a swing set their parents cannot afford. As their dream gets stuck in Liberaland, Tommy and Lou’s lemonade stand is hit with many obstacles.

Liberals keep appearing from behind their lemon tree, taking half of their money in taxes, forbidding them to hang a picture of Jesus atop their stand, and making them give broccoli with each glass sold.

Law after law instituted by the press-hungry liberals finally results in the liberals taking over Tommy and Lou’s stand and offering sour lemonade at astronomical prices to the customers.
Grojlach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2004, 02:29 PM   #2
Davros
Takhisis Follower
 

Join Date: January 7, 2001
Location: Mandurah, West Australia
Age: 60
Posts: 5,073
What do you mean George - looks perfectly reasonable to me [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Chortle, guffaw - OK - sorry Groj - I could say those things about the article, but I couldn't keep a straight face
__________________
Davros was right - just ask JD
Davros is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2004, 02:41 PM   #3
Stratos
Vampire
 

Join Date: January 29, 2003
Location: Sweden
Age: 43
Posts: 3,888
Well, the indoctrination has to start early to have the most effect.
__________________
Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.
Stratos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2004, 07:10 PM   #4
Khazadman Risen
Manshoon
 

Join Date: May 4, 2004
Location: The Glorious South
Age: 62
Posts: 174
I look on it more as getting the kids ready for the brain washing they'll face once they get in school.
__________________
I\'m reminded of the words of Socrates who said.... I drank what?<br />C. Knight
Khazadman Risen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2004, 08:02 PM   #5
Oblivion437
Baaz Draconian
 

Join Date: June 17, 2002
Location: NY
Age: 37
Posts: 723
By their teachers who have liberal bents?

Seriously, I had one teacher who moved any direction other than due-left-of-center, and he kept his mouth shut about his political views.
__________________
[img]\"http://www.jtdistributing.com/pics/tshirts/experts%20copy.jpg\" alt=\" - \" />
Oblivion437 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2004, 10:36 PM   #6
The Hierophant
Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom
 

Join Date: May 10, 2002
Location: Dunedin, New Zealand.
Age: 42
Posts: 2,860
Quote:
Originally posted by Khazadman Risen:
I look on it more as getting the kids ready for the brain washing they'll face once they get in school.
Or simply brainwashing the kids with prejudicial lies at home before they get brainwashed with prejudicial lies that you insinuate they'll be subjected to at school?

OK, from my outsider's high horse I write this book off as pathetic, politically-polarising vitriole. It's a somewhat hasty and foolish judgment to make, as I havn't actually read it yet, but ah well. I just get a little uppity whenever I hear people draw lines between 'liberal' and 'conservative' camps.
__________________
[img]\"hosted/Hierophant.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Strewth!
The Hierophant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2004, 11:03 PM   #7
Felix The Assassin
The Dreadnoks
 

Join Date: September 27, 2001
Location: Orlando, FL
Age: 61
Posts: 3,608
Politics as usual.

I did find it interesting at the bottom of the linked page; Related Items, Conservatives are from Mars (Liberals are from San Francisco) to be a little bit off, well maybe 3200 miles off. Don't they come from the opposite side, Where they can roam the roads in their Rolls Royce's and share a certain spread with each other while self benefitting from their latest tax increase?
__________________
The Lizzie Palmer Tribute



Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

John F. Kennedy
35th President of The United States

The Last Shot

Honor The Fallen

Jesus died for our sins, and American Soldiers died for our freedom.




If you don't stand behind our Soldiers, please feel free to stand in front of them.
Felix The Assassin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2004, 12:27 AM   #8
John D Harris
Ninja Storm Shadow
 

Join Date: March 27, 2001
Location: Northport,Alabama, USA
Age: 62
Posts: 3,577
Oh what Conservatives are not alowed to have a point of view? That's amazingly Tolerant of you folks. Why don't you go write your own books, get your own talk radio hosts, quit complaining about others, and getting upset when they have a differant point of view. That sounds a whole lot like you're trying to control the way people think and act, HMMMMMMMM isn't that one of the complants and crys(as in crybabying) that the Libs try to say the conservatives are try to do control people.
__________________
Crustiest of the OLD COOTS "Donating mirrors for years to help the Liberal/Socialist find their collective rear-ends, because both hands doesn't seem to be working.
Veitnam 61-65:KIA 1864
66:KIA 5008
67:KIA 9378
68:KIA 14594
69:KIA 9414
70:KIA 4221
71:KIA 1380
72:KIA 300

Afghanistan2001-2008 KIA 585
2009-2012 KIA 1465 and counting

Davros 1
Much abliged Massachusetts
John D Harris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2004, 02:15 AM   #9
The Hierophant
Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom
 

Join Date: May 10, 2002
Location: Dunedin, New Zealand.
Age: 42
Posts: 2,860
Quote:
Originally posted by John D Harris:
Oh what Conservatives are not alowed to have a point of view? That's amazingly Tolerant of you folks. Why don't you go write your own books, get your own talk radio hosts, quit complaining about others, and getting upset when they have a differant point of view. That sounds a whole lot like you're trying to control the way people think and act, HMMMMMMMM isn't that one of the complants and crys(as in crybabying) that the Libs try to say the conservatives are try to do control people.
So far all I've seen from the posts in this thread are people insinuating that that they either:

a) agree with the sentiment of the book
or
b) disagree with the sentiment of the book
or
c) are indifferent toward the sentiment of the book

So far NO ONE has stated that people are not allowed to think the way the author of this book thinks. What are you on about JD? [img]graemlins/saywhat.gif[/img]

[ 08-16-2004, 02:17 AM: Message edited by: The Hierophant ]
__________________
[img]\"hosted/Hierophant.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Strewth!
The Hierophant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2004, 03:52 AM   #10
Grojlach
Zartan
 

Join Date: May 2, 2001
Location: Ulpia Noviomagus Batavorum
Age: 43
Posts: 5,281
Arrow

Quote:
Originally posted by John D Harris:
Oh what Conservatives are not alowed to have a point of view? That's amazingly Tolerant of you folks. Why don't you go write your own books, get your own talk radio hosts, quit complaining about others, and getting upset when they have a differant point of view. That sounds a whole lot like you're trying to control the way people think and act, HMMMMMMMM isn't that one of the complants and crys(as in crybabying) that the Libs try to say the conservatives are try to do control people.
*sigh*
You know John, you don't have to act like a stereotype all the time.
I'll be frank and say that if you really educate your kids with aforementioned book, I think you're a terrible parent - it's just plain wrong to try to force your politics on young, impressionable minds and learn your kids to fear and hate those with other political leanings, to learn them to be intolerant of those with other views.
And let it be noted that my opinions are the same when a liberal child's novel is putting the conservatives in the bad guy's position.

I know, it's inevitable that your kids adopt certain views and inherit certain prejudices; but that doesn't mean you should force these on them - just let them make up their minds for themselves. But if you try to *force* certain political leanings onto your kids in their most impressionable age (and thereby heavily influence the way they think during the rest of their lives), you're doing just the thing you tried to accuse the liberals of in your post (namely trying to control the way they think and act), ironically enough.

[ 08-16-2004, 08:26 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]
Grojlach is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2024 Ironworks Gaming & ©2024 The Great Escape Studios TM - All Rights Reserved