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Get your facts straight before you launch a tirade. Secondly, while God was on the earth (Y'shua) he did not sin. You can hardly expect rules designed for humans to contain the uncontainable creator. What are you thinking? The commandments were part of an agreement between God and the people of Israel. If they kept them, he would be their God. He had his own part of the deal to keep. Your protestations are like looking at a recording contract and screaming hypocrisy because the record company don't have to perform any songs! [ 05-28-2002, 09:42 AM: Message edited by: Yorick ] |
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I haven't posted on this thread before, but there are a couple of inacccuricies that I'd like to clear up. St. Mary was NOT St. Joseph's wife when she became pregnant with Jesus, she was merely his fiance. He was going to "put her away," ie., call the ceremony off when an angel told him of the miracle. And, the Commandment did not say, "Thou shalt not kill" in the original Hebrew, but, "Thou shall do no murder." which is an entirely different kettle of fish. There is nowhere in the Bible where God rebukes killing in battle, for instance, just as killing. Also, executions were not condemned, though Jesus saved the woman taken in adultery from death by stoning. Good post, Cerek, BTW.
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Secondly, the agreement was between God and Israel. Jesus existence and death enabled everyone else to live outside those laws (under grace) and have a relationship with God as well. Why don't you lose your anger and look at the information with a cool head instead of knee jerk anger. I noticed you didn't comment on your innacuracy concerning Joseph and Mary's marital status. |
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Another good Post, Aviendha, with several good, thought-provoking questions.
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So, how did dinosaurs get on the Ark (which they would have HAD to do, since Job was born long after Noah). Again, the site I "linked" in the earlier message gives a great accounting of how the Ark could have housed ALL the animals PLUS enough food to feed them. For starters, it never said that Noah gathered adult animals. The site suggests that younger specimans were collected of the larger species (dinosaurs, elephants, etc). It also gives the exact dimensions of the Ark and the "storage areas" for animals and food. The way it is explained, the animals would only have occupied about 1/3 of the Arks total space, leaving the rest available for storage of feed. Quote:
So....according to Christian Answers, the Missing Links are just that....still missing. Quote:
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Several years ago, I had a situation similar to yours. I was working as a dishwasher and one of my friends worked in the Purchasing Dept. of the local hospital. I thought that would be a fun job..especially since it would pay better and have MUCH better insurance benefits than the restaurant where I worked. Within a year, my friend had left the hospital and I eventually got the job he left...the one I had been wanting for months. Did I thank God and give Him the credit? Actually no. I felt that He provided an opportunity, but there was another co-worker at the restaurant who also worked at the hospital and she was the one who told me about the job. It was a great step-up for me...but the circumstances were VASTLY different than when I got the managers job at a different facility. I wanted the original job at the hospital, but I DID have another job that was paying my bills. The second time around, I had prayed earnestly the night before after going through a veeery long period of severe financial difficulty. It was the TIMING, more than anything, that PROVED it was an answer to my prayer. I wanted the other job and eventually got it. But I needed the second job and got it the DAY AFTER praying about it. AFA athletes are concerned, "Giving thanks to God" is a trend that started several years ago. As you say, it is said SO often that I have to wonder who is being sincere and who is just being "trendy". But those that are sincere DO have a valid point. God has given them a gift of physical skill that few others possess. And - in most Olympic sports - there are always one or two competitors that are simply head-and-shoulders above the competition because of their physical skills. There are many great soccor players in the world today, but none have ever matched the effortless grace of Pele' - he was just born with a God-given natural talent for soccor. Does that mean that God likes the other - lesser talented players - less. Absolutely not. He gives each of us gifts according to His desires and plan. I have NO chance of EVER being competitive in any type of physical sport...that's just the way God made me. However, he has given me gifts in other areas that suit HIS purposes (rather than mine). Certainly, I would've loved being a "beefy hunk athlete" in high school, but God had other plans for me and I can honostly say I am very happy with the person I have become under His Guidance. Quote:
Could God have prevented Sept. 11? Yes, I believe He could have. Then why didn't He? I truly wish I knew. Maybe it's one of the precursor events to Armageddon, or maybe it serves some other purpose in His overall plan for mankind. I personally have no idea what it could be but it doesn't change my trust in God. Quote:
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Let me ask you this, if you went to the library and picked up a book on Quantam Physics and sat down to read it, do you think you will gain a full understanding of everything written in it. Probably not. Most people would have to take a class to study the subject and have the professor explain the Laws of Physics and how they can be applied to our everyday world. That is how the Holy Spirit works regarding the Bible. What was confusing before now makes perfect sense. Quote:
You mentioned loved ones that weren't Christians and how could Heaven be Perfect if our loved ones weren't with us. God addresses this issue also. He acknowledges that some of our friends and family will choose to reject Him and will - therefore - be cast into Hell. We WILL be aware of that (for a time). In the End Times, all the hosts of Heaven will see their loved ones and friends that did not accept God as they are being sent to the Lake of Fire. The Bible says there will be great weeping and wailing for the lost souls as they depart, but that God will then remove the memory and pain of that loss - very similar to the grieving process we go through now when we lose a loved one. Quote:
You cannot ask forgiveness of an authority you don't believe in. Therefore, concentrate instead on asking God to show you that He does exist. He knows your heart, understands your doubts, and realizes exactly what type of "proof" you require. The BEST way to get the proof you need is to pray for it. God hears ALL prayers that are offered to Him, whether the person is a believer or not. Don't worry about "knowing how to pray the right way". Just be straightforward and sincere. Tell God the same thing you've told me, that you've TRIED to understand and believe in Him - and that you are STILL trying - but that you simply can't do it without some help from Him. God WILL hear your plea and He WILL give you an answer. [ 05-29-2002, 01:43 PM: Message edited by: Cerek the Barbaric ]
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