Jan/Haer Dalis'

Trajan · 04-05-2002, 02:13 PM

I'm thinking of starting a new game and I want to try using Jan and Haer Dalis' in the group,are they any good? And how will they react to Edwin,Viconia,or Keldorn?

Ar-Cunin · 04-05-2002, 03:08 PM

I'm a great fan of Jan Jansen - best thief in the game (unless you're one) and a specialist mage. And he has some nice monologues/dialogues.

I'm not ass satisfied with Haer'Dalis - I think he just gets hurt to easy in close combat - his bardsong doesn't improve - and if is to be used from the distance (missile or magic) then there are better choices out there.

But you should try every NPC at least once to make up your own mind - there aren't that many of them to choose from.

The.Relic · 04-05-2002, 03:44 PM

Just my opinion, but I agree with AR. Jan is by far the most colorful and boisterous of all the NPC's in the game. His dialogue is a breath of fresh air as apposed to the constant conflict and mayhem. As I say, just my opinion, but it seems to me that Haer Dalis, was mainly placed in the game for his role in seducing Aerie if you have a romance with her so that a bizarre love triangle ensues. . I had senior Dalis, once and had to protect him far too much for my liking. . But, I am sure if he is played well that he can be an excellent addition. I am sure we have some Dalis fans who can share how good he can be. .

Jerr Conner · 04-05-2002, 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by The.Relic:
Just my opinion, but I agree with AR. Jan is by far the most colorful and boisterous of all the NPC's in the game. His dialogue is a breath of fresh air as apposed to the constant conflict and mayhem. As I say, just my opinion, but it seems to me that Haer Dalis, was mainly placed in the game for his role in seducing Aerie if you have a romance with her so that a bizarre love triangle ensues. . I had senior Dalis, once and had to protect him far too much for my liking. . But, I am sure if he is played well that he can be an excellent addition. I am sure we have some Dalis fans who can share how good he can be. .

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Glorfindel · 04-06-2002, 03:20 AM

IMO Jan is overall more useful..... he's also a really cool NPC... though I do like Haer'Dalis better as an NPC for some reason

waverider · 04-06-2002, 03:50 AM

well i prefer jan jansen and not heardlis

because he romances with aerie ....

F. Gottwald · 04-06-2002, 04:39 AM

haer´dalis can be a very worthy addition to your party if you take advantage of his ability to combine magic and steel.
give him pixie prick and kundane for considerable melee power, have stoneskin up all the time (support with mirror image before harder fights).

Glorfindel · 04-06-2002, 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by waverider:
well i prefer jan jansen and not heardlis

because he romances with aerie ....

And u being one of the ALSB would find that Blashpemy

.... But if ur with her she ditches him 4 u [img]smile.gif[/img]

Glorfindel · 04-06-2002, 04:50 AM

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Originally posted by F. Gottwald:
haer´dalis can be a very worthy addition to your party if you take advantage of his ability to combine magic and steel.
give him pixie prick and kundane for considerable melee power, have stoneskin up all the time (support with mirror image before harder fights).

But his best use is when u Tensers Transformation him... he becomes a lean mean killing machine.... I find it so amazing that so many ppl who have used F/M's and bards dont use the TT tactic... It makes them SUPER powerful...

Trajan · 04-06-2002, 05:05 AM

Thanks for the input,I've started a new game and picked up Jan and you guys/gals were right, he's a great thief! I am still thinking about Haer Dalis'

04-05-2002, 02:13 PM	#1
Trajan Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: March 29, 2002 Location: Cleveland,OH Posts: 14	I'm thinking of starting a new game and I want to try using Jan and Haer Dalis' in the group,are they any good? And how will they react to Edwin,Viconia,or Keldorn? __________________ \"I waste him with my crossbow!\"(Bob Herzog of KODT)

04-05-2002, 03:08 PM	#2
Ar-Cunin Ra Join Date: August 14, 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Age: 52 Posts: 2,326	I'm a great fan of Jan Jansen - best thief in the game (unless you're one) and a specialist mage. And he has some nice monologues/dialogues. I'm not ass satisfied with Haer'Dalis - I think he just gets hurt to easy in close combat - his bardsong doesn't improve - and if is to be used from the distance (missile or magic) then there are better choices out there. But you should try every NPC at least once to make up your own mind - there aren't that many of them to choose from. __________________ Life is a laugh <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[biglaugh]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/biglaugh.gif\" /> - and DEATH is the final joke <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[hehe]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/hehe.gif\" />

04-06-2002, 03:50 AM	#6
waverider Symbol of Cyric Join Date: September 1, 2001 Location: Belguim Age: 37 Posts: 1,259	well i prefer jan jansen and not heardlis because he romances with aerie .... __________________ [url]\"http://www.wavey.c0m.st\" target=\"_blank\"> Another silly link </a><br />- Ruler of <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[wavey]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/wavey.gif\" /> \'s<br />- Latinum Wizard of ALSB <br />[url]\"http://www.alienthegame.nl/referall.php?id=2215\" target=\"_blank\"> <br />Dont Press it</a>

04-06-2002, 04:39 AM	#7
F. Gottwald Manshoon Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Göttingen, Germany Posts: 153	haer´dalis can be a very worthy addition to your party if you take advantage of his ability to combine magic and steel. give him pixie prick and kundane for considerable melee power, have stoneskin up all the time (support with mirror image before harder fights). __________________ The objective of persecution is persecution. The objective of torture is torture. The objective of power is power.

04-06-2002, 05:05 AM	#10
Trajan Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: March 29, 2002 Location: Cleveland,OH Posts: 14	Thanks for the input,I've started a new game and picked up Jan and you guys/gals were right, he's a great thief! I am still thinking about Haer Dalis' __________________ \"I waste him with my crossbow!\"(Bob Herzog of KODT)

04-05-2002, 03:44 PM	#3
The.Relic Red Dragon Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Long Beach, CA. USA Age: 67 Posts: 1,589	Just my opinion, but I agree with AR. Jan is by far the most colorful and boisterous of all the NPC's in the game. His dialogue is a breath of fresh air as apposed to the constant conflict and mayhem. As I say, just my opinion, but it seems to me that Haer Dalis, was mainly placed in the game for his role in seducing Aerie if you have a romance with her so that a bizarre love triangle ensues. . I had senior Dalis, once and had to protect him far too much for my liking. . But, I am sure if he is played well that he can be an excellent addition. I am sure we have some Dalis fans who can share how good he can be. .

04-06-2002, 03:20 AM	#5
Glorfindel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Mt. Gambier, Australia Age: 36 Posts: 3,337	IMO Jan is overall more useful..... he's also a really cool NPC... though I do like Haer'Dalis better as an NPC for some reason

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