Does anybody know where that contrail came from?

[Felix The Assassin]

Classic response to a situation where, "not in my job statement" rules.


http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...ted;photovideo

[VulcanRider]

I can't believe the gov't is totally clueless about this thing. They may not be talking about it, but somebody knows something. Pentagon: Evidence indicates mystery plume was a plane contrail suggests it may not be the first time this has happened:

A U.S. Northern Command official who didn't want to be identified had said the contrail could very well be from an airplane. An "illusion" effect made the contrail appear as if it was rising straight up, but it was actually level, the official said. The event is similar to another sighting around New Year's Eve in which observers believed they witnessed a missile, he said.

My guess is a test launch of a radar-invisible missile. Otherwise some air traffic controller somewhere on the west coast would have seen it. If it was an airplane contrail, ATC should have seen something. If it was a private missile, or launched by another country, and NORAD really didn't see it, then we might as well shut them down 'cause they aren't doing their jobs...

[ElfBane]

It was a recommissioned SR-71.

[Olorin]

Definitely not a missile.

Jon Stewart did a good job poking fun at the media frenzy on the Daily Show (for running with the missile theory just b/c they couldn't get someone to confirm otherwise--something along the lines of, wow if a reporter can't navigate the government bureaucracy in less than a 1 hour segment, it suddenly becomes a government conspiracy?). The best part was when he showed a clip of the interview with the helicopter pilot that filmed the contrail--the pilot said he noticed the start of the trail, and then focused on it for about 10 minutes. Is the Daily Show really the only cable news that can do the math on that and realize that if a helicopter can film the trail forming over a 10 minute period, it has to be something a whole lot slower than a missile?

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by Olorin Definitely not a missile. Jon Stewart did a good job poking fun at the media frenzy on the Daily Show (for running with the missile theory just b/c they couldn't get someone to confirm otherwise--something along the lines of, wow if a reporter can't navigate the government bureaucracy in less than a 1 hour segment, it suddenly becomes a government conspiracy?). The best part was when he showed a clip of the interview with the helicopter pilot that filmed the contrail--the pilot said he noticed the start of the trail, and then focused on it for about 10 minutes. Is the Daily Show really the only cable news that can do the math on that and realize that if a helicopter can film the trail forming over a 10 minute period, it has to be something a whole lot slower than a missile?

Mull this over.

The penalties of having stealth aircraft are a reduction of power due to the reduced foot print of intake and exhaust properties. With a reduction of power comes a reduction of speed...

[VulcanRider]

The CHINESE did it ??? (CNN iReport)

China flexed its military muscle Monday evening in the skies west of Los Angeles when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the southern California coast. ... The reported Chinese missile test off Los Angeles came as a double blow to Obama. The day after the missile firing, China’s leading credit rating agency, Dagong Global Credit Rating, downgraded sovereign debt rating of the United States to A-plus from AA. The missile demonstration coupled with the downgrading of the United States financial grade represents a military and financial show of force by Beijing to Washington.

Two things came to mind: (1) this reminds me of a loanshark breaking a finger as a "reminder" to pay your debt. (2) does anybody think this would have happened with a Repub in the White House?

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by VulcanRider The CHINESE did it ??? (CNN iReport) Two things came to mind: (1) this reminds me of a loanshark breaking a finger as a "reminder" to pay your debt. (2) does anybody think this would have happened with a Repub in the White House?

Nice find VR.

Yes, I'm sure there are some that feel it would have happened, I however, am not one of them.

[Micah Foehammer]

Originally Posted by VulcanRider The CHINESE did it ??? (CNN iReport)

Actually that's not a CNN report at all. It's an iReport posted by someone named DaElmer. According to CNN, iReport is a user-generated section of CNN.com. The stories in this section are not edited, fact-checked or screened before they are posted.

The actual source for the report is this link:

http://www.infowars.com/wayne-madsen...rn-california/

For more information on Mr Madsen, check here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Madsen

And this one is just too funny:

http://www.insider-magazine.com/madsen_under_threat.htm

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by Micah Foehammer Actually that's not a CNN report at all. It's an iReport posted by someone named DaElmer. According to CNN, iReport is a user-generated section of CNN.com. The stories in this section are not edited, fact-checked or screened before they are posted. The actual source for the report is this link: http://www.infowars.com/wayne-madsen...rn-california/ For more information on Mr Madsen, check here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Madsen And this one is just too funny: http://www.insider-magazine.com/madsen_under_threat.htm

Shh, you will let the conspirators know, that we know, what they know.

[VulcanRider]

Ok, so Wayne's been branded a whackjob. But this whackjob's a former Navy anti-submarine expert who also worked in the NSA. It's not that big a stretch to believe he's still got friends in those areas and might hear things not made public. Nut or insider? Time will tell...