FIghter/thief, help me building a char plz

Xanthul · 12-08-2001, 06:53 AM

Im gonna start a BG2 + ToB game using an evil fighter/thief, and the 3 evil characters (ill also add the 4th one that appears in ToB). I dont know if i should use a multi fighter/thief or a kensai dualed to thief, what are your opinions ?

Sir Exxon · 12-08-2001, 07:02 AM

I think maybe kensai dualled to a thief, cause the kensai have some good bonuses.

see ya!

Dundee Slaytern · 12-08-2001, 09:34 AM

Hmmmm... both have their advantages and disadvantages.

Kensai->Thieves have Kai, an AC bonus and are able to grandmaster in their weapon of choice.

Fighter/Thieves can share from both the Fighter and Thief's high level ability pool.

I am partial to the Kensai->Thieves though.

Kai + Backstab + STR + ToB Quarterstaff =

Woah...

Mitro Jellywadder · 12-08-2001, 10:45 AM

If you're going for pure power, go with the kensai dualed to thief. With three other members it won't be hard to protect him while he catches up.

The best benefit for having a multi-class is the access to both high level abilities in ToB. Honestly, you wouldn't go wrong either way.

Lord Ludtke · 12-08-2001, 11:56 AM

I went with the elven f/t version and it is quite a powerful creature. You only get 2 prof points for weapons and you should carry around some studded leather to do thieving stuff, but everything else
is open.

Start with lockpicka and detect trap. Work on the others later, cause remember, with multi you keep getting better and better in both classes.

SixOfSpades · 12-08-2001, 01:37 PM

Are you taking Jan along for the ride as well, Ertai? (I think about 90% of the people here do....)

An Elven Fighter/Thief would definitely kick some serious mayhem. Just think Coran, even without that 3rd star in Bow, and you're set.

On the other hand, a Kensai->Thief could be murder. You've got Korgan and his hitpoints out in front to start the fight, and a Steathed naked Kensai running up from behind to finish the fight.

Can a Kensai wear Bracers if they don't affect his ACor other defenses?

Dundee Slaytern · 12-08-2001, 10:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
Can a Kensai wear Bracers if they don't affect his ACor other defenses?

With Use Any Item, why not?

Eldoran · 12-09-2001, 12:38 AM

Just to add my 2 bits, even though its pretty much been covered...

Kensai -> Thief definately has the advantage in power, mostly because of the loss of kensai penalties to use any item.

Probibly crossing over to Thief from Kensai at 16 or 20 would be best, but you would have to ask the Kensai->Thief experts...

I myself would probibly use F/T because I dislike being human

, and the switch over point while dualing at a higher level is annoying... But shouldn't be so bad if you are going with only 3 others through SoA.

Good Luck

P.S. Try CE, since Quasits are the most fun to abuse... They deserve it

robertthebard · 12-09-2001, 01:10 AM

I'm leaning towards the dual class. Too many bonuses from the Kensai to really ignore. But you can't backstab with a quarterstaff, as it is a blunt weapon. But a Grandmaster Longsword+3 backstab, now that's living, or not, depending on which end of the stab you're on.

Kingenigma · 12-09-2001, 02:11 AM

As for multiclass, try halflings. They have great bonuses too.

12-08-2001, 06:53 AM	#1
Xanthul Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Outside my place Age: 42 Posts: 1,283	Im gonna start a BG2 + ToB game using an evil fighter/thief, and the 3 evil characters (ill also add the 4th one that appears in ToB). I dont know if i should use a multi fighter/thief or a kensai dualed to thief, what are your opinions ? __________________ Previously known as Ertai_OHF

12-08-2001, 11:56 AM	#5
Lord Ludtke Zhentarim Guard Join Date: November 21, 2001 Location: canada Posts: 319	I went with the elven f/t version and it is quite a powerful creature. You only get 2 prof points for weapons and you should carry around some studded leather to do thieving stuff, but everything else is open. Start with lockpicka and detect trap. Work on the others later, cause remember, with multi you keep getting better and better in both classes. __________________ Do not pray for an easy life.<br />Pray for the strength to endure <br />a tough one.<p>:warrior1:

12-08-2001, 01:37 PM	#6
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 46 Posts: 6,901	Are you taking Jan along for the ride as well, Ertai? (I think about 90% of the people here do....) An Elven Fighter/Thief would definitely kick some serious mayhem. Just think Coran, even without that 3rd star in Bow, and you're set. On the other hand, a Kensai->Thief could be murder. You've got Korgan and his hitpoints out in front to start the fight, and a Steathed naked Kensai running up from behind to finish the fight. Can a Kensai wear Bracers if they don't affect his ACor other defenses? __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

12-08-2001, 10:55 PM	#7
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	quote: Originally posted by SixOfSpades: Can a Kensai wear Bracers if they don't affect his ACor other defenses? With Use Any Item, why not?

12-09-2001, 01:10 AM	#9
robertthebard Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Wichita, KS USA Age: 60 Posts: 4,537	I'm leaning towards the dual class. Too many bonuses from the Kensai to really ignore. But you can't backstab with a quarterstaff, as it is a blunt weapon. But a Grandmaster Longsword+3 backstab, now that's living, or not, depending on which end of the stab you're on. __________________ To those we have lost; May your spirits fly free. Good Music: Here. Interesting read, one of my blogs.

12-08-2001, 07:02 AM	#2
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 35 Posts: 5,367	I think maybe kensai dualled to a thief, cause the kensai have some good bonuses. see ya!

12-08-2001, 09:34 AM	#3
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Hmmmm... both have their advantages and disadvantages. Kensai->Thieves have Kai, an AC bonus and are able to grandmaster in their weapon of choice. Fighter/Thieves can share from both the Fighter and Thief's high level ability pool. I am partial to the Kensai->Thieves though. Kai + Backstab + STR + ToB Quarterstaff = Woah...

12-08-2001, 10:45 AM	#4
Mitro Jellywadder Quintesson Join Date: September 5, 2001 Location: Florida Age: 52 Posts: 1,016	If you're going for pure power, go with the kensai dualed to thief. With three other members it won't be hard to protect him while he catches up. The best benefit for having a multi-class is the access to both high level abilities in ToB. Honestly, you wouldn't go wrong either way.

12-09-2001, 12:38 AM	#8
Eldoran Dungeon Master Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Home Posts: 96	Just to add my 2 bits, even though its pretty much been covered... Kensai -> Thief definately has the advantage in power, mostly because of the loss of kensai penalties to use any item. Probibly crossing over to Thief from Kensai at 16 or 20 would be best, but you would have to ask the Kensai->Thief experts... I myself would probibly use F/T because I dislike being human , and the switch over point while dualing at a higher level is annoying... But shouldn't be so bad if you are going with only 3 others through SoA. Good Luck P.S. Try CE, since Quasits are the most fun to abuse... They deserve it

12-09-2001, 02:11 AM	#10
Kingenigma The Magister Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 138	As for multiclass, try halflings. They have great bonuses too. __________________ King Enigma<br />Queen Ellesime\'s lover<br />A high lvl swashbuckler<br />A manic pickpocket<br />A kidnap expert<br />Nightmare of the nobles<br />The freelancer

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