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Old 02-11-2002, 06:37 PM   #1
Gabriel
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These is a two pronged post.
1)I manged to discover a way of being inmortal in PnP DnD that is allowed with the game rules AND
2)If we as a world was to invent a way of obtaining inmortality would you believe that it would be a benfit or a curse apon us and would you want it?
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Old 02-11-2002, 06:45 PM   #2
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Well first of all it not wrong if you don't think it is and secondly I wouldnt want to be immortal, Ide just get bored. Ide just like to live long enough to do all the stuff i want to do, like 300 years or something. If we invented a way of obtaining immortality then the world would be ridiculously over populated within 20 years. and everything would turn downhill. there wouldnt be enough food to feed everyone, and a whole lot of other problems would arise, (ie more people = more pollution) This might cause us to incresae our scientific drive and discover new ways of doing things and new ways to survive, but the timespan that that would take would be too great to benefit the world as a whole. Also if people didnt fear death then things would get really crazy really quick. There would be a lot more violence and stuff like that. In short it would be a bad thing, a really bad thing. but thats just my humble opinion.
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Old 02-11-2002, 06:47 PM   #3
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Immortality would be great for the human race if--

Human aging (memory loss, increasing bone fragility, etc) could be prevented at the same time; and, most importantly,

Human fertility dropped to nothing. We are already pushing the limits of what the planet can sustain--perhaps more than that, given the tens of millions of people who starve every year. An immortal population that still reproduces is a report card for disaster, IMO.
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Old 02-11-2002, 10:46 PM   #4
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Cool Post, Gabriel,

Both of your questions are very interesting.

1)OK, how?


2) I've already discovered a formula for immortality in real life. As a Christian, I believe in eternal life after death. So I do plan on living forever. The REALLY cool thing is that I only have to spend a very short time in this frail human shell...after it dies, I'll be transformed into a Planetar or Solar!!!.
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Old 02-12-2002, 02:15 AM   #5
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overpopulation would result to starvation therefor causing pain, we would not die since we are immortal yet continue to suffer... i prefer dying than living in eternal suffering thank you... you dont know what is life after death anyway.. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-12-2002, 03:22 AM   #6
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Religious Taoists (not the original philosophical Taoists; there's a difference) actually believe that physical immortality is possible, and is attained through a combination of special diet and yogic exercises. I'm prepared to believe that they can greatly prolong life, but I poo-poo the idea of physical immortality.

The contemporary Tibetan philosopher Chogyam Trungpa also said that, if we really could become physically immortal, we'd try to commit suicide way before we reached the age of 1000.
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Old 02-12-2002, 07:34 AM   #7
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I can only say one thing.. I already hat mondays and imortality sounds like a really really bad deal if you ae not happy at work!

Geesh, it would be booring. Nah, I don´t want imortality and how could it be good for humankind?

We are too many as it is, and if the populace kept growing life value would drop even more and well... Mars or the moon doesn´t even to begin to sound interesting to live on..
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Old 02-12-2002, 08:10 AM   #8
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My 'soul' is already immortal and I certainly wouldn't want to be chained to an aging, failing body for time without end.....so I guess I'd have to answer no, I would not want to be immortal (in the present incarnation, anyway and that's all I have to go on at the moment [img]smile.gif[/img] ) all things equal. Not even if, as fable theorizes, aging and debilitation is taken from the equation.
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Old 02-12-2002, 10:23 AM   #9
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Living forever too me would be a drag. Living for a couple hundred HEALTHY year's now that I could handle.

As for PnP I found that loop hole many year's ago, that's why my siggy name is still in use, the only problem with that is that you can amass some demonic enemies that you would rather not have so on so forth.

And now I have posted in one of your post's...
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Old 02-12-2002, 11:22 AM   #10
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Originally posted by Garnet FalconDance:
My 'soul' is already immortal and I certainly wouldn't want to be chained to an aging, failing body for time without end.....so I guess I'd have to answer no, I would not want to be immortal (in the present incarnation, anyway and that's all I have to go on at the moment [img]smile.gif[/img] ) all things equal. Not even if, as fable theorizes, aging and debilitation is taken from the equation.


I'd only add that I couldn't stand the confines of my own personality preventing me from growth, in the long run. To take a very lowly example, I am horrible with math. I've tried repeatedly banging my head against all sorts of books, and am no clearer on basic alegebraic and geometric concepts than I was more than three decades ago. As this frustrates me, how much greater is the frustration that I cannot truly comprehend without limitation the spiritual values that I dimly perceive through meditation, prayer, and ritual practice? Whatever I learn and gain, here, I wish to grow into a greater awareness that goes beyond human existence.
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