06-11-2003, 03:45 PM | #61 |
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Wow, Omicron, if that's how you run a cleric, no wonder you don't get anywhere with them...
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06-11-2003, 03:49 PM | #62 |
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Oh and Wizrads/Sorcerers [img]smile.gif[/img] get Spell Triggers,Contengencys,Spell Sequncers...
and Clerics do not get this. Well another point for Wizards [img]smile.gif[/img] . |
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...and would serve me wonderfully to demonstrate the vast versatility of the Mage. [img]tongue.gif[/img] [ 06-12-2003, 03:59 AM: Message edited by: Alson ]
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06-12-2003, 08:02 AM | #65 |
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You really can't compare these two. They are completely different classes that serve completely different purposes and where one shines the other sucks.
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By the way, although it looks like I'm trying to say a cleric is better than a mage, this is far from my point. I am simply trying to prove that clerics are far from useless and they do not get shafted (clerics in IWD were substantially worse IIRC, with a VERY limited selection of 6th and 7th level spells). I am actually pro mage! But clerics will always serve a great purpose for me. [RANDOM THOUGHT]Does improved alactrity enable a mage to use wands with the same no pause per round effect as he/she gains from casting spells? I've never tried this, but if this is possible, then a mage could unload entire wands with 50 charges of fireballs/lightning and cause utter chaos![/RANDOM THOUGHT] |
06-12-2003, 08:43 AM | #66 |
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No, they cannot. However, a Mage can also cast a non-resistable Sunfire or Dragon Breaths. And, Stoneskin/PfMW for Tanking is very useful. Who needs AC, when it's virtuably impossible to damage the person? Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that Clerics may be powerful, but not single-classed ones. At least, in my opinion.
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At this point, I feel that my earlier post was trying to put the cleric head to head against the mage, where I have already admitted that the mage will always win (in ideal circumstances). I am merely trying to prove that the cleric is not useless , and the fact cannot be denied that in certain circumstances, clerics can be more effective than mages. Quote:
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While I agree with many of your points, clerics and mages will always have advantages and disadvantages. Rather than saying mage x is better than cleric y but only when mage x is of level z and has spells a-e memorised with protection f, g and h up. Where would a mage stand if he had no spells memorised or he had an empty spell book? Or in an area of dead magic? This is another strong advantage of clerics, since their wisdom provides there spells rather than relying on scrolls, and physical hardship is not to be overlooked. Quote:
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