WELCOME TO THE IRONWORKS, SCOTT!

Scott · 09-15-2001, 03:54 PM

Did anyone else read what Jerry Falwell had to say about the terrorist bombings?
I quote

"God Almighty is lifting his protection from us. We have imagined ourselves invulnerable and have been consumed by the pursuit of ... health, wealth, material pleasures and sexuality...
All of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say, "You helped this happen" "

According to Falwell, God has stopped giving America his divine protection because he is angry at us. Specifically, "pagans, abortionists, feminists, homosexuals, the American Civil Liberities Union and the People for the American Way." He is blaming them for Tuesday's attacks.

I'm not going to turn this into some Christian bashing thread. I have a lot of Christian friends, and they are wonderful people. But when I read a story like this, I am glad I am not religious.
And can we all agree that Falwell is just freaking insane?

SSJ4Sephiroth · 09-15-2001, 03:58 PM

yeah, im pretty sure that Falwell's insane. im a christian too, and i wouldnt even dream of saying anything like that! but if you ask me, all those famous revrends are a bit 'iffy'...

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Fljotsdale · 09-15-2001, 04:05 PM

Same sort of attitude as any religious fanatic anywhere. These are the sort of people that incite terrorism among the desperate poor in oppressed nations.

Happily, they have far less power in the West.

It is people like this that make me want to ban religion, despite knowing some pretty good and sincere believers (like Yorick, et al, on this forum).

And

WELCOME TO THE IRONWORKS, SCOTT!

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Istaron · 09-15-2001, 04:11 PM

Ohhh, those people should be a shamed of them selves, causing this terrorist attack!...

Wadda moron he is, that Falwell.

And Scott, in such cases as this, I am glad, too, I am not religous.

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Kaz · 09-15-2001, 04:16 PM

I agree, that is an IDIOT of the first degree. Yep, there are times that I'm glad I'm not religious, too. And as Fljotsdale said,

WELCOME TO IW FORUMS!

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DragonMage · 09-15-2001, 04:18 PM

Just a note: to some, Christianity is not a religion, it is a way of life. Characters like Falwell give Christianity a bad name (just like 'Christians' who fight wrong with wrong by bombing abortion clinics). He's a fanatic all right, but not for God - he's a fanatic for himself. He made a valid point only in that this country HAS been overrun with immorality and greed lately. But I do not believe God would EVER punish the wicked by hurting the innocent. The Bible never showed him punishing a bunch of innocent people for the evil deeds of others. True, this fool has been saying America is a modern day Sodom and Gamorrah - well, some people here act that way, yes. But that has nothing to do with what happened at the WTC. He's a fool and only reinforced that sentiment in every TRUE Christian's eyes by saying that.

Istaron · 09-15-2001, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DragonMage:
Just a note: to some, Christianity is not a religion, it is a way of life.

Ehh... isn't ALL relilgions/ideologies lifestyles? I kinda thought that was the meaning with religon, to have something to focus on.

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DragonMage · 09-15-2001, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Istaron:
Ehh... isn't ALL relilgions/ideologies lifestyles? I kinda thought that was the meaning with religon, to have something to focus on.

Umm..Sorry for the confusion there. I wouldn't say what I believe qualifies strictly as a religion. To me, religion is something with strict rules: "you MUST go to church", "you must..this" "you must...that". All I do is try my best not to tread on anyone else and trust in God to handle all troubles. I can't really explain it, but, to me, there's a difference. If I can figure out how to word it, I'll post later, okay?

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09-15-2001, 04:36 PM

As much as people may not like to hear it, from a Christian point of view, it holds some bearing.
Yes, God loves us all, but even as much as our father loves us, he will allow us to be taught hard lessons.
Flame away for that if you want...I'm leaving the internet for a while so I won't be here to see it.

God Bless You All & Welcome to Ironworks Scott!
Thank you for lighting your candle.

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MILAMBER · 09-15-2001, 04:39 PM

Yeah, that guy sucks and he failed at life.

Welcome to the forum Scott! Hope to see lots more of you around.

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09-15-2001, 04:05 PM	#3
Fljotsdale Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: March 12, 2001 Location: Birmingham, West Mid\'s, England Age: 87 Posts: 2,859	Same sort of attitude as any religious fanatic anywhere. These are the sort of people that incite terrorism among the desperate poor in oppressed nations. Happily, they have far less power in the West. It is people like this that make me want to ban religion, despite knowing some pretty good and sincere believers (like Yorick, et al, on this forum). And WELCOME TO THE IRONWORKS, SCOTT! ------------------ [This message has been edited by Fljotsdale (edited 09-15-2001).]

09-15-2001, 04:16 PM	#5
Kaz Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: August 16, 2001 Location: UK Posts: 2,891	I agree, that is an IDIOT of the first degree. Yep, there are times that I'm glad I'm not religious, too. And as Fljotsdale said, WELCOME TO IW FORUMS! ------------------ Kazara Sapphire Dragoness of ALSB Waitress at Cloudy's Cafe

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09-15-2001, 03:54 PM	#1
Scott Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 7, 2001 Posts: 7	Did anyone else read what Jerry Falwell had to say about the terrorist bombings? I quote "God Almighty is lifting his protection from us. We have imagined ourselves invulnerable and have been consumed by the pursuit of ... health, wealth, material pleasures and sexuality... All of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say, "You helped this happen" " According to Falwell, God has stopped giving America his divine protection because he is angry at us. Specifically, "pagans, abortionists, feminists, homosexuals, the American Civil Liberities Union and the People for the American Way." He is blaming them for Tuesday's attacks. I'm not going to turn this into some Christian bashing thread. I have a lot of Christian friends, and they are wonderful people. But when I read a story like this, I am glad I am not religious. And can we all agree that Falwell is just freaking insane?

09-15-2001, 03:58 PM	#2
SSJ4Sephiroth Beholder Join Date: May 4, 2001 Location: The Outside Looking In Age: 37 Posts: 4,361	yeah, im pretty sure that Falwell's insane. im a christian too, and i wouldnt even dream of saying anything like that! but if you ask me, all those famous revrends are a bit 'iffy'... ------------------ It's simple. Once the Planet is hurt, it gathers Spirit Energy to heal the injury. The amount of energy gathered depends on the size of the injury...What would happen if there was an injury that threatened the very life of the Planet? Think how much energy would be gathered! Ha, ha, ha. And at the center of that injury, wil be me. All that boundless energy will be mine. By merging with the energy of the Planet, I will be come a new life form, a new existence. Melding with the Planet, I will cease to exist as I am now. Only to be reborn as a 'God' to rule over every living soul. Super Sephiroth, slayer of the Uber Fluffy, and battle co-ordionator and defender of the HADB clan. Diplomacy is all and well, but HADB is better!

09-15-2001, 04:11 PM	#4
Istaron Banned User Join Date: June 16, 2001 Location: Uppland Posts: 711	Ohhh, those people should be a shamed of them selves, causing this terrorist attack!... Wadda moron he is, that Falwell. And Scott, in such cases as this, I am glad, too, I am not religous. ------------------ We call him Bobby Corwen

09-15-2001, 04:18 PM	#6
DragonMage 20th Level Warrior Join Date: September 6, 2001 Location: The lighter side of life, a.k.a. Newnan, Georgia Age: 55 Posts: 2,767	Just a note: to some, Christianity is not a religion, it is a way of life. Characters like Falwell give Christianity a bad name (just like 'Christians' who fight wrong with wrong by bombing abortion clinics). He's a fanatic all right, but not for God - he's a fanatic for himself. He made a valid point only in that this country HAS been overrun with immorality and greed lately. But I do not believe God would EVER punish the wicked by hurting the innocent. The Bible never showed him punishing a bunch of innocent people for the evil deeds of others. True, this fool has been saying America is a modern day Sodom and Gamorrah - well, some people here act that way, yes. But that has nothing to do with what happened at the WTC. He's a fool and only reinforced that sentiment in every TRUE Christian's eyes by saying that.

09-15-2001, 04:36 PM	#9
Moni Guest Posts: n/a	As much as people may not like to hear it, from a Christian point of view, it holds some bearing. Yes, God loves us all, but even as much as our father loves us, he will allow us to be taught hard lessons. Flame away for that if you want...I'm leaving the internet for a while so I won't be here to see it. God Bless You All & Welcome to Ironworks Scott! Thank you for lighting your candle. ------------------ You know childhood is over when a puddle seems like an obstacle instead of an opportunity. Is Too! Is Not! Is Too! Is Not!

09-15-2001, 04:39 PM	#10
MILAMBER Lord Soth Join Date: March 5, 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,948	Yeah, that guy sucks and he failed at life. Welcome to the forum Scott! Hope to see lots more of you around. ------------------ "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." -General George Patton (1885-1945) Member of CLAN HADB

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