redlong says hello to everyong - Page 6

Attalus · 02-02-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by wellard:
When you’re world revolves around boosting your post count in any way possible using as few words as possible, humour and positive contributions to the forum have to be cast aside. Which is a shame because of two reasons

1) He is a nice guy and funny when he wants to be... he just keeps it hidden in one-line posts that say nothing (or gets his more interesting threads delated)

2) If there was a few more spammers like Xen this forum would disintegrate into a Spam fest and disappear.

Anyway this is redlong's hello thread so....

Welcome to Ironworks! [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img]

Say it, brother. Down with [img]graemlins/spam3.gif[/img] Oh, I never got around to it, but welcome, Redlong. [img]graemlins/wavey.gif[/img]

redlong · 02-03-2005, 04:08 AM

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Originally posted by Melusine:
Bloody hell mate, where did you learn English? Hope you don't mind my asking, it's not meant to be offensive. [img]smile.gif[/img] Just noticed how your language is extremely formal and has so many difficult words, while at the same time your grammar and sentence structure is strange... find it intriguing and wonder where you learnt it. I started imagining maybe you taught yourself with just a really thick dictionary or something.

Welcome to the forums, by the way! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Edit: Oooh, look at my post count! Eeevillll [img]graemlins/evillaughter2.gif[/img]

Thank you for pointing out my shortcoming.I learn English in Singapore,where I am studying in a secondary school.The problem you heve mentioned is exact my defect in English lauguage.And it is also the reason I said my English was no good at all.I am not able to control my expressions with high proficiency.I sometimes cannot come up with apprepriate tone when I write.I assume that I have got accustomed to formal essays which I have been trained to write so much.Additionally,the dilemma that perplexed me is that I feel if I write posts just like I speak is very casual while it seems like overly formal,even official that I do it like this.Anyway,thank you for informing my flaw.I will endeavour to improve my lauguage.

Sigmar · 02-03-2005, 04:11 AM

Like Transformers? O_O

Welcome aboard Redlong! [img]graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by Attalus:

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Originally posted by Vaskez:
Sounds like Snoop Dogg to me

Would that be Calvin Broadus? [img]tongue.gif[/img] [/QUOTE][img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

[ 02-03-2005, 04:15 AM: Message edited by: Sigmar ]

Melusine · 02-03-2005, 05:32 AM

Erm, where did I mention the words "shortcoming" or "flaw"? Don't put words in my mouth please. I merely thought it was intriguing, since I could not put my finger on why you'd have such a formal diction. Now I know, so thanks. I know about writing essays making you talk funny though - whenever I'm working on one, I find myself making long and argumentative posts with lots of long sentences here.

Funny how they teach you English in Singapore. Over here it's precisely the other way around. My boyfriend's a teacher on a secondary school, and he's having trouble getting colleagues to accept his plans for a big Shakespeare project because they're afraid it might be too difficult

Education is much more focused on being able to make yourself understood in everyday situations - being able to make well-constructed arguments and writing polite letters, but also booking a hotel room or chatting to a stranger without them giving you funny looks because of any stilted formality or unintended rudeness. Maybe we shoudl exchange some teachers from both our countries (not my boyfriend though! [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) to get the best of both worlds

johnny · 02-03-2005, 05:58 AM

Or you could put posting on hold until you are at least a little tipsy. It'll take away the last barriers of formality and puts you on the same frequency with the lesser educated folks such as myself.

So bottoms up.

TheGodThatFailed · 02-03-2005, 11:25 AM

Hi, Redlong, welcome to the ironworks. Beleive me, your english is probably alot better than mine

Dron_Cah · 02-03-2005, 02:29 PM

Actually, Redlong, the only discrepancy I found in your last post was some verb disagreement (that being tenses). I definitely wouldn't worry about it, though, I'm sure you will be able to communicate your thoughts very well with your English.
Oh, and for [img]graemlins/spam2.gif[/img] 's sake, I'm eating "Chicken in a Biskit!" [img]smile.gif[/img]

Vaskez · 02-03-2005, 03:10 PM

Simon says touch your toes [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Kakero · 02-03-2005, 04:12 PM

Hello Redlong. Nice to see ya.

hmm...is this thread gunning for the record?

Bungleau · 02-03-2005, 04:19 PM

I'm with Melusine. I don't consider your English to be a flaw, by any means. A flaw would imply that there's something wrong with it, and there isn't.

It's just a little more formal and flowery than what's used in normal conversation. You're very easy to understand, so it's not an issue with communicating properly. If your primary focus has been on writing formal papers, then your English would naturally have a more formal tone.

Probably the biggest thing that struck me is that you use a lot of long words, far more than are used in "normal" conversation. For example...

thank you ==> thanks
I am not able to control my expressions with high proficiency. ==> I'm not very good at picking the right words (which I disagree with, BTW)
cannot ==> can't
I have got accustomed ==> I'm used
the dilemma that perplexed me ==> what puzzles me
endeavor (endeavour) ==> try

Not that any of what you said is wrong, because it isn't. It's just a little longer than what people normally say.

I remember the first time I heard French spoken in a real-world setting. This was after I'd studied it for a year or two, and I quickly discovered that many of the "hard and fast" grammar rules didn't apply when you were speaking. I've since changed how I speak French... mostly [img]smile.gif[/img]

If you want to hear more conversational English, rent English or American comedies. Within a comedy, the only use for "proper" language is to make fun of it

So... don't think you've got to fix something. After all, your English is far, far better than my Chinese or Malay....

02-03-2005, 05:32 AM	#54
Melusine Dracolisk Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Age: 43 Posts: 6,541	Erm, where did I mention the words "shortcoming" or "flaw"? Don't put words in my mouth please. I merely thought it was intriguing, since I could not put my finger on why you'd have such a formal diction. Now I know, so thanks. I know about writing essays making you talk funny though - whenever I'm working on one, I find myself making long and argumentative posts with lots of long sentences here. Funny how they teach you English in Singapore. Over here it's precisely the other way around. My boyfriend's a teacher on a secondary school, and he's having trouble getting colleagues to accept his plans for a big Shakespeare project because they're afraid it might be too difficult Education is much more focused on being able to make yourself understood in everyday situations - being able to make well-constructed arguments and writing polite letters, but also booking a hotel room or chatting to a stranger without them giving you funny looks because of any stilted formality or unintended rudeness. Maybe we shoudl exchange some teachers from both our countries (not my boyfriend though! [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) to get the best of both worlds __________________ [img]\"hosted/melusine.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Your voice is ambrosia

02-03-2005, 05:58 AM	#55
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	Or you could put posting on hold until you are at least a little tipsy. It'll take away the last barriers of formality and puts you on the same frequency with the lesser educated folks such as myself. So bottoms up. __________________

02-03-2005, 11:25 AM	#56
TheGodThatFailed Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: March 18, 2004 Location: Where silent gods stand guard Age: 33 Posts: 699	Hi, Redlong, welcome to the ironworks. Beleive me, your english is probably alot better than mine __________________ Oh, Dreadful angel of mine...<br />Enrich me with the vastenss of your being...<br />Rigid father, Teach me hto comprehend...<br />I\'ll commit myself to understand...

02-03-2005, 03:10 PM	#58
Vaskez Takhisis Follower Join Date: April 30, 2001 Location: szép Magyarország (well not right now) Posts: 5,089	Simon says touch your toes [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Too set in his ways to ever relate If he could set that aside, there'd be heaven to pay But weathered and aged, time swept him to grave Love conquers all? Damn, I'd say that area's gray

02-03-2005, 04:19 PM	#60
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	I'm with Melusine. I don't consider your English to be a flaw, by any means. A flaw would imply that there's something wrong with it, and there isn't. It's just a little more formal and flowery than what's used in normal conversation. You're very easy to understand, so it's not an issue with communicating properly. If your primary focus has been on writing formal papers, then your English would naturally have a more formal tone. Probably the biggest thing that struck me is that you use a lot of long words, far more than are used in "normal" conversation. For example... thank you ==> thanks I am not able to control my expressions with high proficiency. ==> I'm not very good at picking the right words (which I disagree with, BTW) cannot ==> can't I have got accustomed ==> I'm used the dilemma that perplexed me ==> what puzzles me endeavor (endeavour) ==> try Not that any of what you said is wrong, because it isn't. It's just a little longer than what people normally say. I remember the first time I heard French spoken in a real-world setting. This was after I'd studied it for a year or two, and I quickly discovered that many of the "hard and fast" grammar rules didn't apply when you were speaking. I've since changed how I speak French... mostly [img]smile.gif[/img] If you want to hear more conversational English, rent English or American comedies. Within a comedy, the only use for "proper" language is to make fun of it So... don't think you've got to fix something. After all, your English is far, far better than my Chinese or Malay.... __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

02-03-2005, 02:29 PM	#57
Dron_Cah Horus - Egyptian Sky God Join Date: March 2, 2003 Location: Kentucky Age: 37 Posts: 2,637	Actually, Redlong, the only discrepancy I found in your last post was some verb disagreement (that being tenses). I definitely wouldn't worry about it, though, I'm sure you will be able to communicate your thoughts very well with your English. Oh, and for [img]graemlins/spam2.gif[/img] 's sake, I'm eating "Chicken in a Biskit!" [img]smile.gif[/img]

02-03-2005, 04:12 PM	#59
Kakero 40th Level Warrior Join Date: March 24, 2002 Posts: 10,215	Hello Redlong. Nice to see ya. hmm...is this thread gunning for the record?

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