What does the strength stat 18/xx mean?

[andrewas]

Originally posted by Sir Goulum: Wouldn't that be equal to 19 Str. though?

Mathematicaly the number 18/100 has no definition (technicaly its equal to .018, but thats reading the number in a moronic fashion)

Practicaly this is a gaming system and not a mathematical excercise. You can define the stats to work in anyway that makes some sort of sense. Hell, in a CRPG they dont even have to make sense, since the computer can do all the work.

In any case, it would be redundant to define 18/100 == 19. So they dont. Dont think of it as 18.xx , think of it as 18 & xx .

[karlosovic]

Originally posted by andrewas: Mathematicaly the number 18/100 has no definition (technicaly its equal to .018, but thats reading the number in a moronic fashion) In any case, it would be redundant to define 18/100 == 19. So they dont. Dont think of it as 18.xx , think of it as 18 & xx .

I think you meant 0.18 (=18/100) but more to the point...

firstly, 18/xx DOES make a difference to weight allowance, look up the tables in your manual to see what the divisions are

secondly,
18/xx = 18 + xx/100 (but for some reason 18 +100/100 does NOT = 19)
xx = any number 1->100 inclusive, but represented as a 2 digit number, so "100" is written as just "00"

This is becasue it comes from a pen and paper game that is played using real dice, and because a 100-sided die would be totally impractical to both make and use. It is worked out by rolling 2 dice of 10 faces each (called D10), marked from 0->9. The first dice represents the 10's column, the 2nd represents the units column. ie. a roll of '3' and '6' would mean "36". The '0's are worked out as follows: A '0' on either dice means exactly that, except when both are rolled together, when the result becomes "100". ie a roll of '0' and '6' means "06" or "6". A roll of '6' and '0' means "60", etc.
*NOTE* to save time, both dice are rolled together, and different coloured dice are used so you can tell which was the 10's and which was the units

This method is called a D100 or D% or 'percentage roll' etc. It is commonly used in many games that require physical dice rolls.

/pnp_dice-101

[Dace De'Briago]

/me gets out the ph book

16 +1 damage
17 +1 hit/damage
18 +1 hit/+2 damage

ONLY FIGHTERS GET TO ROLL FOR EXCEPTIONAL STRENGTH IF THEY HAVE 18 AS STRENGTH AT CHARACTER CREATION!!!

18/01-50 +1 hit/+3 damage
18/51-75 +2 hit/+3 damage
18/76-90 +2 hit/+4 damage
18/91-99 +2 hit/+5 damage
18/00 +3 hit/+6 damage

Bear in mind that several items will increase strength above 18/00 anyway (several girdles and Crom spring to mind).

It is possible to get a characters NATURAL strength to approx 23. which gives an impressive +5 hit, +11 damage [img]smile.gif[/img]

Anyhow, just some food for thought [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Attalus]

My Pally has 19 STR (Thanks, Lum, I don't care what they call you), until he puts his belt on, that is.

[Kaltia]

Well, my plain ranger has...a lot...

[Xero279]

Originally posted by Angelousss: it's 18/01 through 18/100 but cause 100 doesn't fit(not in the game in all of d&d, it has to do w/ die rolls i think) it becomes 18/00 making 18/00 the highest possible. you can't have 18/0 str because that would just be 18 str. iirc in pnp 18 str means you can lift double your body wieght a reasonable distance, exception str(the backslashes) every number over 18 is another pound the character can carry. this isn't implement in bg2. they do implement the str bonus per certain areas. iirc, there are 3 levels which give different attack bonuses

hmmm, so i was right. cool lol

[SixOfSpades]

Originally posted by Dace De'Briago: It is possible to get a characters NATURAL strength to approx 23. which gives an impressive +5 hit, +11 damage [img]smile.gif[/img]

Actually, you can take a Warrior (but only a Warrior) all the way up to 24. Or, you can do what I did and hack a Half-Orc into BG1, and get yourself a natural 25 Strength.

[Dace De'Briago]

'Hacking' a half orc into BG1 isnt really 'pure'.

Base 18 strength.
+ 1 manual of strength (BG)
+ 2 str (SoA final challenges - wrath tear)
+ 1 primary stat deck of many things (ToB)
+ 1 machine of lum the mad(ToB)

I make that 23 as the max strength. I suppose there is probably a ion stone +1 str, and possibly a weapon +1 str.

Anyone care to confirm these numbers for me please?

[Xero279]

i dont think having items give you strenght like a ion stone or a weapon counts as "natural" strength

[Rataxes]

Originally posted by Dace De'Briago: 'Hacking' a half orc into BG1 isnt really 'pure'. Base 18 strength. + 1 manual of strength (BG) + 2 str (SoA final challenges - wrath tear) + 1 primary stat deck of many things (ToB) + 1 machine of lum the mad(ToB) I make that 23 as the max strength. I suppose there is probably a ion stone +1 str, and possibly a weapon +1 str. Anyone care to confirm these numbers for me please?

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As a warrior, you'll also receive +1 STR (it's +1 Primary stat) upon giving in to the taint when facing Wraith Sarevok.