The Ultimate computer game: responses please - Page 2

Jeannada · 07-03-2001, 05:54 PM

Everquest is very much like that ( i have a level 51 cleric there) but the game is designed to be a big time-waster.. lots of sitting, waiting, camping, it got tedious..

jabidas · 07-03-2001, 06:55 PM

Anarchy online I think is the name of an upcoming futuristic online roleplaying, looks brilliant but still not certain if its achievable, there is going to be a Star Wars one.

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joetbd · 07-03-2001, 08:13 PM

I like to play games "my" way. I dont like always having to fight a certain creature, just because its written in the script. Conversly, I would like to be able to kill innocents and Allys, if I choice. In short, I want my choices to matter, rather then just following a straight-line plot, with no real choices.

As good as BG2 is, you always start at A and finish at Z, always hitting B, C, and D, along the way.

jabidas · 07-03-2001, 08:22 PM

There is a very old game called Dagerfall that will let you do this, dont know if I can reccomend it anymore. X beyond the frontier is a space sim do anything you want game. Ultimate Freedom is a problem because its pretty much unachievable if you want to debate this head over to www.pcgamer.co.uk and go into their forum on game ideas or something.

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skier9205 · 07-03-2001, 08:46 PM

I love Daggerfall. You can create your own character, it has a first person view, you don't have to follow the set quest. You can go off and do whatever you want. You can buy a house, a boat and travel in Daggerfall's imaginary world. The graphics though are really bad. If they could create a Daggerfall 2 w/ better graphics but the basic game idea I would get it in a second.

jabidas · 07-03-2001, 08:52 PM

There was a sequal to Daggerfall it was called Battlespire and it was awful, there was also redguard bu that was more of tombraider rip off. they have another game coming up called morrowind and shock horror it has good graphics but is totally linear.

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skier9205 · 07-03-2001, 09:02 PM

That's too bad. I really liked to concept of Daggerfall. I knew about the sequals to Daggerfall, but they weren't like it.

joetbd · 07-03-2001, 09:07 PM

"Ultimate Freedom is a problem because its pretty much unachievable"

Yes, but there has to be something between Ultimate freedom, and completely linear. Just put a couple of branchs on the linear story, making it possible to end up at a different conclusion. And dont have me facing a monster I can possibly kill, because he appears later in the story. Most of the big budget games are afraid to be anything but Linear (they spend lots of time and money on their story, so they make you go thru it ALL, in order). I think the whole story telling concept may be holding some games back. Maybe how we play the game, should be the story, rather than just grinding through text messages in point A to B to C. At least we could go from A, then maybe C, then B, if we like. BG does have some of this.

The subject line was "The Ultimate computer game", not "a good game".

ScottG · 07-03-2001, 10:14 PM

I had daggerfall. Good concept, poor execution (it crashed all the time).

Sliver · 07-04-2001, 05:31 AM

Daggerfall was way to big and clumsy, and with way too many pointless dungeons.

the idea you have is brilliant! imagine a player is born as a Dragon and creates a dungeon to live in, where he then gathers gold and equipment from other players that want his power

it could make such a legend!

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07-03-2001, 05:54 PM	#11
Jeannada Dungeon Master Join Date: June 28, 2001 Posts: 80	Everquest is very much like that ( i have a level 51 cleric there) but the game is designed to be a big time-waster.. lots of sitting, waiting, camping, it got tedious..

07-03-2001, 06:55 PM	#12
jabidas Silver Dragon Join Date: March 14, 2001 Location: Agharti. Mountains of Madness Posts: 1,673	Anarchy online I think is the name of an upcoming futuristic online roleplaying, looks brilliant but still not certain if its achievable, there is going to be a Star Wars one. ------------------

07-03-2001, 08:13 PM	#13
joetbd Manshoon Join Date: June 6, 2001 Location: KC Posts: 164	I like to play games "my" way. I dont like always having to fight a certain creature, just because its written in the script. Conversly, I would like to be able to kill innocents and Allys, if I choice. In short, I want my choices to matter, rather then just following a straight-line plot, with no real choices. As good as BG2 is, you always start at A and finish at Z, always hitting B, C, and D, along the way.

07-03-2001, 08:22 PM	#14
jabidas Silver Dragon Join Date: March 14, 2001 Location: Agharti. Mountains of Madness Posts: 1,673	There is a very old game called Dagerfall that will let you do this, dont know if I can reccomend it anymore. X beyond the frontier is a space sim do anything you want game. Ultimate Freedom is a problem because its pretty much unachievable if you want to debate this head over to www.pcgamer.co.uk and go into their forum on game ideas or something. ------------------

07-03-2001, 08:46 PM	#15
skier9205 Manshoon Join Date: May 30, 2001 Location: DELETED Posts: 246	I love Daggerfall. You can create your own character, it has a first person view, you don't have to follow the set quest. You can go off and do whatever you want. You can buy a house, a boat and travel in Daggerfall's imaginary world. The graphics though are really bad. If they could create a Daggerfall 2 w/ better graphics but the basic game idea I would get it in a second.

07-03-2001, 08:52 PM	#16
jabidas Silver Dragon Join Date: March 14, 2001 Location: Agharti. Mountains of Madness Posts: 1,673	There was a sequal to Daggerfall it was called Battlespire and it was awful, there was also redguard bu that was more of tombraider rip off. they have another game coming up called morrowind and shock horror it has good graphics but is totally linear. ------------------

07-03-2001, 09:02 PM	#17
skier9205 Manshoon Join Date: May 30, 2001 Location: DELETED Posts: 246	That's too bad. I really liked to concept of Daggerfall. I knew about the sequals to Daggerfall, but they weren't like it.

07-03-2001, 09:07 PM	#18
joetbd Manshoon Join Date: June 6, 2001 Location: KC Posts: 164	"Ultimate Freedom is a problem because its pretty much unachievable" Yes, but there has to be something between Ultimate freedom, and completely linear. Just put a couple of branchs on the linear story, making it possible to end up at a different conclusion. And dont have me facing a monster I can possibly kill, because he appears later in the story. Most of the big budget games are afraid to be anything but Linear (they spend lots of time and money on their story, so they make you go thru it ALL, in order). I think the whole story telling concept may be holding some games back. Maybe how we play the game, should be the story, rather than just grinding through text messages in point A to B to C. At least we could go from A, then maybe C, then B, if we like. BG does have some of this. The subject line was "The Ultimate computer game", not "a good game".

07-03-2001, 10:14 PM	#19
ScottG Drow Warrior Join Date: June 13, 2003 Location: Never Never Land Age: 54 Posts: 267	I had daggerfall. Good concept, poor execution (it crashed all the time).

07-04-2001, 05:31 AM	#20
Sliver Welcomed New User Join Date: July 4, 2001 Location: Alleroed,Danmark Posts: 3	Daggerfall was way to big and clumsy, and with way too many pointless dungeons. the idea you have is brilliant! imagine a player is born as a Dragon and creates a dungeon to live in, where he then gathers gold and equipment from other players that want his power it could make such a legend!

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