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Old 11-12-2005, 11:38 PM   #1
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This is what happens to rip-off artists

If you've got some time on your hands, this is a great read. Quick summary: Guy on Pirate4X4 advertises some gears he has for sale...$115 and they are brand new. Gets a check from another member and cashes it, then goes back and edits his original post to reflect a higher price. Pirate4x4 is famous for it's flame jobs and pack mentality and they go apeshit. The guy cops an attitude and it ends up that they post his name, address, phone numbers, etc. They also find out he has scammed other people on other boards and post that info. Then they discover the gears have 11k miles on them. Then they post his picture and his parent's and employer's addresses. About 3 days ago it gains an "internet life" and suffice it to say this 19yo kid has ruined his life. They know everything about him and it has gotten to some very dangerous and perverse sites. He'll never be able to go online again and he now has had his attempted fraud viewed by over 1 million people just in the last 2 days and it is really starting to snowball. It makes interesting reading because it shows that you are not as anonymous as you might think and how not to act and get cute with the wrong people. Scary stuff.
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Old 11-12-2005, 11:51 PM   #2
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... ouch.
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Old 11-12-2005, 11:55 PM   #3
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Drop him a line, fellas...


Charlie Wenzel
132 Los Cerros Drive
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405

32 Los Cerros
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405-1218
Lot (sq ft):
N/R
Dwelling Area (sq ft):
N/R
Bedrooms:
N/R
Baths:
N/R
Stories:
N/R
Last Sale Price:
$225,000.00
Last Sale Date:
08/17/1988
High Value Estimate:
$910,000.00
Low Value Estimate:
$770,000.00
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Old 11-13-2005, 12:16 AM   #4
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I'm only on page two (of 51!)... man, did he mess up!

I keep on reading because it's really, really hard to believe anyone could be that stupid... really!

Almost feels like an on-line version of Cops!
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:24 AM   #5
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That's a TOUGH lesson to learn. This stupid kid's gonna need a new name.

Got to page 6 and he was still trying to sleeze his way out of it. Skipped to the end and it appears that this is gonna be e-lore for a few years to come. Or forever on some sites.

Something in that for all of us [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] Thanks VR.

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Old 11-13-2005, 02:22 AM   #6
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OMG.....That is one of the funniest things i have seen in a long time...

Awesome link VulcanRider [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:29 AM   #7
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Damn! It grew to 57 pages by the time I finished reading...

Wherever the end is... it ain't there no more!
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Old 11-13-2005, 12:37 PM   #8
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Wow -- that thread's up to 64 pages, almost 1,600 posts! Links are being added to sites worldwide, people are offering "Charlie Wenzel got OWNED!", "Don't get Wenzeled!", and "Don't be a Wenzel" bumper stickers & t-shirts. Emails have been sent to Jay Leno, Howard Stern, and a couple of people contacted their local radio stations. Oh, and 19yr old Charles is apparently going into the US Naval Academy. Some of the readers are either active duty or retired military, and have contacts in the administration there. I'm sure he'll have a fun time. His cell # was posted, and people *ARE* calling him. And he said he refunded the buyer's money, but apparently we won't know until tomorrow if the check cleared. As bad as his life is right now, imagine what'll happen if it doesn't...

Now if we could just catch a Nigerian scammer...
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Old 11-13-2005, 12:46 PM   #9
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I'm wondering if this is nessesary. He learned his lesson, what's going on now is just an invasion of privacy and harassment.
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:35 PM   #10
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He hasn't learned his lesson, though... up until page 47, he's still talking smack. Seven more pages added since I went to bed... I've never seen an internet phenomenon happen before.

As for privacy and herassment, he has invited people to bring it on. I do disagree with the folks trying to drag his family and girlfriend into it... they should be left out.

He also has a track record of trying to pull these kinds of scams. It's amazing what people can dig up on you when they're trying...
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