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Old 09-16-2003, 11:15 PM   #21
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Originally posted by Bozos of Bones:
Doesn't matter whats the order? Fine.
Vesimireltiy
Tepehonle
Denoguns & Dagrnos
Now, tell me it doesn't matter!
Don't know the first word
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Old 09-16-2003, 11:48 PM   #22
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Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Wohverr tohguht taht tihs can be alpiped to all wrdos olbsvuioy neevr ceorneseidd elxetmrey eeltoangd and biotmsbac wdors. Lgaanuge has a vrey ivmipsrsee vroaclauby.
LOL you've hit on the big problem with most language research - multisyllable words aren't neat and tidy and involve a lot more complexity so they're usually put in the too hard basket and research is done on monosyllable words. Resulting in most models and findings being extremely hard to generalise. Although I didn't have too much trouble interpreting these sentences, maybe it does apply to longer words

It's certainly a true finding - we don't tend to parse words letter by letter but by bigger units. Some researchers have also found that we don't parse by syllables, which is an interesting finding. However most of us don't just store the beginnings and ends and a jumble in the middle, because then we couldn't spell properly. Some researchers think that we learn to read using partial cues like that, but as we get more sophisticated and have more exposures to words the middles which aren't as salient are learned properly as well.
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Old 09-17-2003, 02:31 AM   #23
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Sir Goulum
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Spuerilacriagletiscseiplaaodcouis
how long did it take you to mispell it wrongly
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Old 09-17-2003, 05:04 AM   #24
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quote:
Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Wohverr tohguht taht tihs can be alpiped to all wrdos olbsvuioy neevr ceorneseidd elxetmrey eeltoangd and biotmsbac wdors. Lgaanuge has a vrey ivmipsrsee vroaclauby.
but the only word I stumbled over when skim reading it was "biotmsbac" - the others fell out in the frsit psas. [/QUOTE]Same here. But I still do not understand the word. 'biotmsbac'. Please help

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Old 09-17-2003, 05:17 AM   #25
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Let us take the word, "enabled"

e1 n2 a3 b4 l5 e6 d7

1625347

Therefore...

biotmsbac = _________
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Old 09-17-2003, 05:28 AM   #26
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Oh - I see. bombastic it is. Not a word I use that much.

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BTW: Is it only me, or this method of writing easier to read than the so called 1337 14/|/6|_|463?
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Old 09-17-2003, 07:02 AM   #27
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That's an interesting piece of research. It is quite easy to understand what person is saying, it's just that it decreases your reading time.
Damn, I wish it decreased my reading time too. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 09-17-2003, 08:11 AM   #28
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I had no problems at all reading these posts, with the notable exception of "bombastic" and english is not my first language, so I guess the research is true. Talking about coincidences, just today I racieved an e-mail about the same thing in Italian, and it works just as fine... Interesting [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-17-2003, 09:52 AM   #29
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I'ts iittteennsrg. If you try not to jblmue the lrttees so mcuh as oerdr tehm in a hrad to udtnnaesrd way it smees to be mroe dclffuiit. I d'not tnhik it wkros pllaieoctnhy tguohh. And up to trhee leertts wlil aaywls be the smae. Fuor is pttrey esay to wrok out too...

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Old 09-17-2003, 10:13 AM   #30
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I received this Danish version last week:

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En viskdenbaleig unsdelrøgese lavet af et untivseriet i Enlgnad har
vist at desrom de to føsrte- og to siste botsvkeaer i alle oredne i en
tekst er ritkigt plessart, spllier det ingen rolle hvkilen ræføkkelge
de øvirge boskvetaer i oredne kommer. Tektsen er fuldt læbsar selv om
de andre bokeastver kommer huilbtertlulter! Dette er fordi vi ikke
læser hver eneklt botksav, men ser bildeler af ordet som en hehled.
The only difference is that when you may scramble all the letters except the first and the last one in the English version, you must leave the first and last two letters in the Danish version.

I prefer to believe that the reason for this, is that the Danish language is more complicated (higher LIX) than the English language.

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BTW: Hey wait - I just found out that the text is Norwegian, NOT Danish Those two languages are almost identical, when you scramble the letters.
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