mages VS Clerics

tom the strong wizzard · 04-22-2002, 08:07 AM

who do ya think who is stronger a mage or a cleric??? i think a mage

uss · 04-22-2002, 08:19 AM

if youre talking about lvl 20 or something, i think the mage is far more superior. but when aprox. lvl 5, the cleric might even be stronger.

tom the strong wizzard · 04-22-2002, 08:26 AM

when the mage and the clerics are both at theyr max. level

uss · 04-22-2002, 08:40 AM

then its mage. lets see how far can a cleric run from an Abi Dalzim`s Horrid Wilting

, eh?

tom the strong wizzard · 04-22-2002, 08:47 AM

hahahahhahahha i would like to see that 2 mwahhahahah

Daniel_M · 04-22-2002, 08:55 AM

lol, thats easy counterd with...

[cleric] Shield of the Acrons - [cleric]
[mage] Abi dazims horrid writiing - [cleric]
Abi dazims Horrid Writiing no effect
[cleric] Creeping Doom - [mage]
Mage cant cast any spells
[cleric] Bash with mace
[mage] Death

I agree that if a mage does his buffs i.e Stoneskin, Spell shield, spell immunity ect, the cleric could be killed quite easy, but IMHO the battle could go either way.

Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs · 04-22-2002, 10:07 AM

it's really hard to compare mages with clerics. mages have pretty horrid weapon selection, and clerics do too, but clerics can almost resemble second-rate melee fighters if you try hard enough. Mages have time stop/improved alacrity/vecna to cast every spell he knows, but has few really great defensive spells. Clerics cannot decrease their casting time except by Amulet of Power and Drow Elven Chain +3, while mages get AoP and RoV. So, in a battle of high levels, a lvl31 mage would clean up the floor with a lvl40 cleric in most cases. in the "real world" and the everlasting Roleplaying Perspective, killing a lvl40 cleric of any deity would cause holy fury to rain upon the mage and all he holds dear, which he would not survive for more than about 5 seconds. Slaying the favored of a god is not recommended.

Helspanth · 04-22-2002, 10:11 AM

I strongly agree with what Gothmog said!
No offense but BGII is supposed to be a roleplaying game so at least try to think of it as such!!!

Telchar of Nogrod · 04-22-2002, 10:55 AM

While I agree that a high level Mage would probably win a battle with a Cleric, Clerics are essential to your party. Their protection spells give my tanks almost total immunity (protection from fire, lightning, free action, death ward, negative plane protection, caotic commands), bring on the bad guys. They can also be used as front line fighters (draw upon holy might, armor of faith, haste), for those times when the enemy warps in all around your party and you need to protect that all so powerfull mage when he is at his most vulnerable.

cyber7 · 04-23-2002, 05:41 AM

I tink they'r difrent, it's alwas wise to have at least one of tehm in the party

04-22-2002, 08:07 AM	#1
tom the strong wizzard Manshoon Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Holland Age: 36 Posts: 226	who do ya think who is stronger a mage or a cleric??? i think a mage __________________ What doesnt kill me makes me stronger and wizer, thats how i live. <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[mage1]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/mage1.gif\" />

04-22-2002, 08:26 AM	#3
tom the strong wizzard Manshoon Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Holland Age: 36 Posts: 226	when the mage and the clerics are both at theyr max. level __________________ What doesnt kill me makes me stronger and wizer, thats how i live. <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[mage1]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/mage1.gif\" />

04-22-2002, 08:47 AM	#5
tom the strong wizzard Manshoon Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Holland Age: 36 Posts: 226	hahahahhahahha i would like to see that 2 mwahhahahah __________________ What doesnt kill me makes me stronger and wizer, thats how i live. <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[mage1]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/mage1.gif\" />

04-22-2002, 08:55 AM	#6
Daniel_M Elminster Join Date: October 17, 2001 Location: London, England Age: 40 Posts: 480	lol, thats easy counterd with... [cleric] Shield of the Acrons - [cleric] [mage] Abi dazims horrid writiing - [cleric] Abi dazims Horrid Writiing no effect [cleric] Creeping Doom - [mage] Mage cant cast any spells [cleric] Bash with mace [mage] Death I agree that if a mage does his buffs i.e Stoneskin, Spell shield, spell immunity ect, the cleric could be killed quite easy, but IMHO the battle could go either way. __________________ \"Sarcasm is a sign of genius.\"<br /><br />[url]\"http://www.hellspawnonline.tk\" target=\"_blank\">Hellspawn-Online.tk</a>

04-22-2002, 10:07 AM	#7
Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs Elminster Join Date: March 23, 2002 Location: Lynchburg, Virginia Age: 39 Posts: 460	it's really hard to compare mages with clerics. mages have pretty horrid weapon selection, and clerics do too, but clerics can almost resemble second-rate melee fighters if you try hard enough. Mages have time stop/improved alacrity/vecna to cast every spell he knows, but has few really great defensive spells. Clerics cannot decrease their casting time except by Amulet of Power and Drow Elven Chain +3, while mages get AoP and RoV. So, in a battle of high levels, a lvl31 mage would clean up the floor with a lvl40 cleric in most cases. in the "real world" and the everlasting Roleplaying Perspective, killing a lvl40 cleric of any deity would cause holy fury to rain upon the mage and all he holds dear, which he would not survive for more than about 5 seconds. Slaying the favored of a god is not recommended. __________________ Yar!

04-22-2002, 08:19 AM	#2
uss 20th Level Warrior Join Date: November 16, 2001 Location: Estonia Age: 35 Posts: 2,775	if youre talking about lvl 20 or something, i think the mage is far more superior. but when aprox. lvl 5, the cleric might even be stronger.

04-22-2002, 08:40 AM	#4
uss 20th Level Warrior Join Date: November 16, 2001 Location: Estonia Age: 35 Posts: 2,775	then its mage. lets see how far can a cleric run from an Abi Dalzim`s Horrid Wilting , eh?

04-22-2002, 10:11 AM	#8
Helspanth Quintesson Join Date: January 21, 2002 Location: Thessaloniki,Hellas Age: 42 Posts: 1,050	I strongly agree with what Gothmog said! No offense but BGII is supposed to be a roleplaying game so at least try to think of it as such!!! __________________ \"Sorrow is the future tense of love\"

04-22-2002, 10:55 AM	#9
Telchar of Nogrod Drow Warrior Join Date: September 2, 2001 Location: NYC Age: 57 Posts: 267	While I agree that a high level Mage would probably win a battle with a Cleric, Clerics are essential to your party. Their protection spells give my tanks almost total immunity (protection from fire, lightning, free action, death ward, negative plane protection, caotic commands), bring on the bad guys. They can also be used as front line fighters (draw upon holy might, armor of faith, haste), for those times when the enemy warps in all around your party and you need to protect that all so powerfull mage when he is at his most vulnerable. __________________ \"Here once was light, that the Valar begrudged to Middle-earth, but now dark levels all. Shall we mourn here deedless forever, a shadow-folk, mist haunting, dripping vain tears in the thankless sea?\"<br />Feanor at Tirion upon Tuna, Of the Flight of the Noldor, The Silmarillion

04-23-2002, 05:41 AM	#10
cyber7 The Magister Join Date: March 12, 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 128	I tink they'r difrent, it's alwas wise to have at least one of tehm in the party __________________ _cyber7_

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