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Old 11-10-2001, 10:32 PM   #31
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just cast and click on your picture

Once again, you are exploiting a flaw in the game. Kindly please assume that we are encountering each other as hostile opponents, not in a party.

also, mislead, you do realize that the fake character cannot cast any magic. and any copy-self's image is significantly weaker than original charatcer.

My gawd man, are you sure you have been using Mages/Sorcerers? You can still cast selected spells under the influence of invisibility, the invisibility will not dispel so long as the spell being casted is not hostile, Time-Stop included. I'm casting Mislead for protection, not for extra firepower.

if you want to do any real dmg, that has to come from yourself (which breaks invisibility)

See above.

ring of air control cast improved invisibility on self. monks can use it and you can buy infinite number of ring of air control

You know what? A Sorcerer/Mage can use this ring too, then we both can't do anything except run in circles and taunt each other until we both die of boredom and the rest of the gaming world starts playing NWN.

Although the Mage/Sorcerer does have one advantage, Dispel/Remove Magic.
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Old 11-11-2001, 04:09 AM   #32
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dispel sucks too, cannot dispel anything

and am I really exploiting? I tell you what, this is BGII, if you want real PvP game, then ask them to design it for you.

in fact, should they design PvP, I can still find ways to take out your sorc

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Old 11-11-2001, 03:57 PM   #33
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Monks are good, but sorcerors are much better. Take Absolute Immunity for example. How can a monk deal with that?
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Old 11-11-2001, 07:41 PM   #34
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dispel sucks too, cannot dispel anything

I wouldn't call Dispel/Remove Magic sucky, but I wouldn't call it excellent either( except for Inquisitors). The thing is however, at least I can try to dispel a Monk's invisibility( 50% chance), a Monk has no active way to dispel a Sorcerer's invisibility however.

and am I really exploiting? I tell you what, this is BGII, if you want real PvP game, then ask them to design it for you.

It's called Neverwinter Nights.

in fact, should they design PvP, I can still find ways to take out your sorc

We shall see.


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Old 11-11-2001, 07:50 PM   #35
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Monks are good, but sorcerors are much better. Take Absolute Immunity for example. How can a monk deal with that?


A Monk can take a +5 or better weapon and whack you with you, that is why I chose to use Protection from Magical Weapons and Stoneskin instead.

See! I'm not totally biase! Really!
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Old 11-11-2001, 08:50 PM   #36
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you know why i truly love the monk class?
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in the underdark instead of working with the drow i decided the wipe the city from the bowels of the earth, and kill every drow there, which really wasn't much of a challenge. Even the 5 or 6 stone golems in the dragons eggs chamber wasn't a big deal. then after doing that i decided i need to go clean out that beholder den as well. now instead of taking my whole party through there and working together to take out all those beholders, sometimes coming at you 3 at a time with 3 gauths as well; i decided to just take minsc. now minsc was changed to a monk when i got him using shadowkeeper, as i mentioned on this thread before. minsc was about a 20th level monk at the time. so i took him and cleaned out the entire den, i know he personally killed at least 9 beholders, countless gauths, and at least 3 mindflayers, all without resting once, or using any healing ability or spell except for the ring of regeneration, consequently he only ended up losing 1/2 his power when he was done. i dont know if he had any yet, but i didnt use any high level special abilities that you get with TOB, though those can be really really helpful. now i didnt keep trying this until i got it, this was spontaneous and on the first time. minsc just brawled his way through there. now this may not makes sense to everyone, but thats one of the main reasons i like the monk class.
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Old 11-11-2001, 09:04 PM   #37
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once again this is not a thread to pit monks against sorcerors, both classes are extremely good in their own ways. Just remember, BG1 and BG2 are both about role-playing, which happens to include dungeon crawling.. Those rigorous and annoying times while you're plunging ahead all day, with no where to rest, for fear of being stabbed in the night. (you can rest, i know.. but sometimes it's hard) The sorceror would eventually run out of spells, the monk isn't going to run out of fists... Truth be told, both classes are good in their own way and it's unfair to pit them one against the other.

PS. How good are Planetars in comparison to Pit Fiends and the slayer?
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Old 11-11-2001, 09:12 PM   #38
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Hmmmm... what would be a Monk's dream equipment? I'm basing this on memory and SoA only, so point out if there better alternatives.

Armour: NIL
Gloves: Gauntlets of Crushing
Helmet: Pale Green Ioun Stone
Amulet: Kaligun's Amulet of Magic Resistance
Rings: Ring of Gaxx, Ring of Protection +2
Cloak: Cloak of the Sewers( your MR will protect you)
Boots: Boots of Speed
Belt: Girdle of Stone Giant Strength
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Old 11-11-2001, 09:16 PM   #39
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PS. How good are Planetars in comparison to Pit Fiends and the slayer?


They eat Pit Fiends, no seriously, Planetars kick their butts. One on one, I believe they can defeat a Slayer-type demon too, not your Slayer though, or Jon Irenicus's Slayer.
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Old 11-11-2001, 09:23 PM   #40
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For throne of bhaal
Armour: NIL
Gloves: Gauntlets of Crushing
Helmet: wong fei's ioun stone
Rings: Ring of Gaxx, Ring of Protection +2
Cloak: Cloak of the Sewers
Boots: Boots of Speed
Belt: Girdle of Fire Giant Strength

thats about all the better equipment for monks Ithink of the top of my head.
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