Imoen

Kikakee · 01-24-2002, 01:47 AM

Back in BG1, Imoen used to be a strait thief. For the purposes of BG2, the creators changed her into a thief who dueled to a mage. I was thinking: "Is it technically considered a cheat if I used shadowkeeper to put her back to a strait thief?" I mean it's not like I want to change her stats or change her to a fighter or anything. I just would like her back to the way I left her in BG!!

Mourn Yauntyyr · 01-24-2002, 01:57 AM

I would consider it shooting yourself in the foot. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I mean, Imoen is the best mage in the game, next to Edwin. Her thief skills make her more useful. She can disarm just about any trap, can scout invisibly with find traps on, and can either pick locks or cast knock on them. So her thief skills are adequate, and her mage skills provide the party with a lot of needed firepower. Why would you want to change her?

Mourn Yauntyyr

01-24-2002, 02:46 AM

Yep. Don't do it. She rocks in ToB.

fable · 01-24-2002, 03:35 AM

If you want to do it, do it: you bought the game, you can change it however you wish.

It doesn't seem like cheating to me, provided you don't alter her stats or give her additional thieving levels. But again, that's something for you to decide.

D*Ranged · 01-24-2002, 04:20 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Kikakee:
Back in BG1, Imoen used to be a strait thief. For the purposes of BG2, the creators changed her into a thief who dueled to a mage. I was thinking: "Is it technically considered a cheat if I used shadowkeeper to put her back to a strait thief?" I mean it's not like I want to change her stats or change her to a fighter or anything. I just would like her back to the way I left her in BG!!

She's more useful as a dualled mage from thief, but then again it's your choice. Do as you wish. Personally though I wouldn't.

Kikakee · 01-24-2002, 11:48 AM

Well, my PC is a mage, so her casting ability is pretty much worthless to me. The only time I use it is to summon monsters before a battle, and for identifying items. I have her equiped with "the night's gift +5" (AC 3 leather armor) which negates her mage spells during battle anyway. I use her as one of my ranged attackers... not a caster.

Jerr Conner · 01-24-2002, 12:14 PM

It's not necessarily cheating, as long as you don't turn her into some 1000 hit point person, lol!

However, I like to change her appearance to a Mage Human Female instead of a Thief Human Female, mainly because that makes more sense to me.

SixOfSpades · 01-24-2002, 09:24 PM

I'd say go ahead & change her--in BG1, she was one of the best Thieves in the game....then you hit BG2 and NOT ANYMORE! She sucks as a Thief now: Doesn't have 100% in anything. I would either
A) Edit her character to be an exact match of however you had her at the end of BG1 (whether you Dualed her to Mage or not), or
B) Move her Thieving Skills around so she has 100% in Find Traps, Pick Locks, and the rest in Set Traps or Detect Illusion, and make her a Swashbuckler.

I'm not a moron who screws up his characters, and I don't appreciate BioWare screwing up Imoen FOR me.

Mourn Yauntyyr · 01-24-2002, 09:26 PM

Oh well that changes things entirely, since you are playing a mage. In PnP AD&D, you have members of the party that suit your needs (generally speaking). Therefore switching Imoen to a straight thief is like having one of your friends play a thief. I see no problem with it, as like I said before, you are really making her less powerful than more so. Hopefully this absolves your conscience [img]smile.gif[/img]

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Sazerac · 01-24-2002, 09:30 PM

Just out of curiosity:

I'm playing BG:TOTSC right now (already finished one game of BG2:SoA and starting ToB soon). I've just dualled Imoen in BG1 to a Conjurer rather than a straight mage. When I go to BG2, will she remain a conjurer or will it reset her to what the preset for BG2 is?

Cheers,

01-24-2002, 01:57 AM	#2
Mourn Yauntyyr The Magister Join Date: December 1, 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 127	I would consider it shooting yourself in the foot. [img]smile.gif[/img] I mean, Imoen is the best mage in the game, next to Edwin. Her thief skills make her more useful. She can disarm just about any trap, can scout invisibly with find traps on, and can either pick locks or cast knock on them. So her thief skills are adequate, and her mage skills provide the party with a lot of needed firepower. Why would you want to change her? Mourn Yauntyyr __________________ Mourn Yauntyyr<br />HDM, Tzach Neveril<br />An all-Drow NwN server<br />[url]\"http://www.tzachneveril.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.tzachneveril.com</a>

01-24-2002, 04:20 AM	#5
D*Ranged Avatar Join Date: January 4, 2002 Location: Wellington ,NZ (I revealed it to people now...) Age: 41 Posts: 585	quote: Originally posted by Kikakee: Back in BG1, Imoen used to be a strait thief. For the purposes of BG2, the creators changed her into a thief who dueled to a mage. I was thinking: "Is it technically considered a cheat if I used shadowkeeper to put her back to a strait thief?" I mean it's not like I want to change her stats or change her to a fighter or anything. I just would like her back to the way I left her in BG!! She's more useful as a dualled mage from thief, but then again it's your choice. Do as you wish. Personally though I wouldn't. __________________ YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN...........

01-24-2002, 12:14 PM	#7
Jerr Conner Silver Dragon Join Date: January 24, 2002 Location: Mundania Age: 42 Posts: 1,634	It's not necessarily cheating, as long as you don't turn her into some 1000 hit point person, lol! However, I like to change her appearance to a Mage Human Female instead of a Thief Human Female, mainly because that makes more sense to me. __________________ <b>Founder of the NPC Defender Force</b>, <b>Affiliate of the Pro-Mazzy Society</b><br />\"I hate to admit it but you\'ve earned my respect.\"--Shar-Teel (Thanks for this Illumina Drathiran\'ar)<br /> [img]\"http://userpic.livejournal.com/14048184/35120\" alt=\" - \" />

01-24-2002, 09:24 PM	#8
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 46 Posts: 6,901	I'd say go ahead & change her--in BG1, she was one of the best Thieves in the game....then you hit BG2 and NOT ANYMORE! She sucks as a Thief now: Doesn't have 100% in anything. I would either A) Edit her character to be an exact match of however you had her at the end of BG1 (whether you Dualed her to Mage or not), or B) Move her Thieving Skills around so she has 100% in Find Traps, Pick Locks, and the rest in Set Traps or Detect Illusion, and make her a Swashbuckler. I'm not a moron who screws up his characters, and I don't appreciate BioWare screwing up Imoen FOR me. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

01-24-2002, 09:26 PM	#9
Mourn Yauntyyr The Magister Join Date: December 1, 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 127	Oh well that changes things entirely, since you are playing a mage. In PnP AD&D, you have members of the party that suit your needs (generally speaking). Therefore switching Imoen to a straight thief is like having one of your friends play a thief. I see no problem with it, as like I said before, you are really making her less powerful than more so. Hopefully this absolves your conscience [img]smile.gif[/img] Mourn Yauntyyr Elderboy, Qu'ellar Yauntyyr The City of Tzach Neveril Proud member of the Anti-Anomen League. __________________ Mourn Yauntyyr<br />HDM, Tzach Neveril<br />An all-Drow NwN server<br />[url]\"http://www.tzachneveril.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.tzachneveril.com</a>

01-24-2002, 01:47 AM	#1
Kikakee Dungeon Master Join Date: January 11, 2002 Location: RI Posts: 64	Back in BG1, Imoen used to be a strait thief. For the purposes of BG2, the creators changed her into a thief who dueled to a mage. I was thinking: "Is it technically considered a cheat if I used shadowkeeper to put her back to a strait thief?" I mean it's not like I want to change her stats or change her to a fighter or anything. I just would like her back to the way I left her in BG!!

01-24-2002, 02:46 AM	#3
Jan Guest Posts: n/a	Yep. Don't do it. She rocks in ToB.

01-24-2002, 03:35 AM	#4
fable Quintesson Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Where I am. Posts: 1,089	If you want to do it, do it: you bought the game, you can change it however you wish. It doesn't seem like cheating to me, provided you don't alter her stats or give her additional thieving levels. But again, that's something for you to decide.

01-24-2002, 11:48 AM	#6
Kikakee Dungeon Master Join Date: January 11, 2002 Location: RI Posts: 64	Well, my PC is a mage, so her casting ability is pretty much worthless to me. The only time I use it is to summon monsters before a battle, and for identifying items. I have her equiped with "the night's gift +5" (AC 3 leather armor) which negates her mage spells during battle anyway. I use her as one of my ranged attackers... not a caster.

01-24-2002, 09:30 PM	#10
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 60 Posts: 7,387	Just out of curiosity: I'm playing BG:TOTSC right now (already finished one game of BG2:SoA and starting ToB soon). I've just dualled Imoen in BG1 to a Conjurer rather than a straight mage. When I go to BG2, will she remain a conjurer or will it reset her to what the preset for BG2 is? Cheers, __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

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