Suicide why?

[Lovisa]

I don't get this with suicide why would u wanna take ur life?
Maybe because ur sad, u think ur useless but that no reason for commiting suicude! If ur sad try work it out, don't commit suicide think about the pain u cause other ppl don't let 'em feel that pain it hurts it burns and u'll never forget...

[Epona]

Have you never heard of depression? Schizophrenia?

These are illnesses. Illnesses like flu or measles, but they affect the mind and emotions rather than the body.

9 out of 10 people will suffer from a mental health problem such as depression at some point in their lives.

No-one takes their life because they are just 'sad' - to think that is really quite naive. They end it because death is preferable to the crushing misery of living with depression for years on end.

[Lovisa]

I didn't mean only sad, but c'mon suicide doesn't help anyone seek help or something but don't commit suicide.

[Epona]

No I agree it doesn't help anyone, and that people should seek help, but I still think that you have completely failed to understand what depression is, how it overwhelms your life, drains your energy, leaves you feeling cut off from the world, unable to move, unable to function, unable to talk to anyone about what you're going through. There is also the issue of the stigma attached to depression and other mental health issues. It can be totally paralysing.

If only it was as simple as just going to get help.

Fortunately I have never suffered from depression, but I have lived and shared my life for a time with someone who did. When you see someone you care for, an intelligent person with a lot to offer, spend most of their time asleep and their waking hours withdrawn or crying for reasons that they cannot even begin to explain to you, the total hopelessness that they see - when you have talked someone like that out of suicide once - when you have seen them take a bottle of pills because it has all become too much - then you can begin to understand.

It is not as simple as just deciding to go and get help. I really suggest you do a google search on 'clinical depression' and 'manic depression' - you will be able to find a lot of information from people who have suffered with these illnesses, which may help you to understand - because at the moment you clearly have no idea what suffering from such a condition (or living with a sufferer) is like.

[B_part]

Suicide is an easy way out. It takes only a second or so of "courage" to end your "pain" forever. That's the reason why it appeals many. It's much more difficult to stand against your problems.
Obviously, as Epona pointed out, mental ilnesses will push you much further along this thinking path.

"To be or not to be - that is the question / Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer / the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune / or to take arms against a sea of troubles / and by opposing end them? To die, to sleep; / No more? And by a sleep, to say we end / the heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks / The flesh is heir to

[Drake]

its been my personal experience that most people who kill themselves do it because they believe there to be no way to stop the pain. more often then not they do seek help in some way but sometimes there just isnt much that can help...

[Melusine]

Well said, Epona.

[Bruce The Aussie]

depression does suck. i know, i'm currently on anti-depressants. making me feel alot better [img]smile.gif[/img] . although i must say i have thought about suicide but never thought about doing it. always seemed like i'd miss too much in life. i mean my time will come eventually anyway so why hurry it along.

[johnny]

Originally posted by Epona: Have you never heard of depression? Schizophrenia? These are illnesses. Illnesses like flu or measles, but they affect the mind and emotions rather than the body. 9 out of 10 people will suffer from a mental health problem such as depression at some point in their lives. No-one takes their life because they are just 'sad' - to think that is really quite naive. They end it because death is preferable to the crushing misery of living with depression for years on end.

Yeah, and by doing that, they commit the most selfish deed imaginable. They don't even leave you with a chance to kick their ass for doing such a thing.

[WillowIX]

Originally posted by Epona: No I agree it doesn't help anyone, and that people should seek help, but I still think that you have completely failed to understand what depression is, how it overwhelms your life, drains your energy, leaves you feeling cut off from the world, unable to move, unable to function, unable to talk to anyone about what you're going through. There is also the issue of the stigma attached to depression and other mental health issues. It can be totally paralysing. If only it was as simple as just going to get help. Fortunately I have never suffered from depression, but I have lived and shared my life for a time with someone who did. When you see someone you care for, an intelligent person with a lot to offer, spend most of their time asleep and their waking hours withdrawn or crying for reasons that they cannot even begin to explain to you, the total hopelessness that they see - when you have talked someone like that out of suicide once - when you have seen them take a bottle of pills because it has all become too much - then you can begin to understand.

[img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] Epona. Well said.

But there is help to be had if you are depressed. Both medical and mental. Unfortunately this line of research does not get the praise and media time it deserves. Therefore it tends to be unheard of. There is a lot of research being done on schizophrenia and any depression. Some answers have been found whereas several remain unknown. The best advice to give anyone with a depression; the earlier you get professional help, the shorter time you will have to live with it. Of course not all can be treated and some can't even be helped. But you will get support and caring. And perhaps that is enough. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Johnny, I agree with you that suicide isn't the best solution. But by your standards in the post I above one could just as easily accuse familly/friends for being too selfish not to help.

[ 05-31-2003, 07:23 AM: Message edited by: WillowIX ]