Improved Parry Question

Jim · 09-02-2004, 06:55 AM

Hello everyone!

I'm exploring the parry skill at the moment, and would like to know what exactly the "improved parry" feat does. In the past I used to think that the riposte attacks were made with a +4 bonus to hit/damage, but now I'm not so sure. The counter attacks are made at the same attack bonus and there is no bonus to damage with my current character, so does this mean that improved parry merely gives a +4 bonus to the parry skill?

If this is indeed the case, then I wonder why the feat description is worded as "The character gains a +4 competence bonus to his opposed attack roll"?

Thanks!

Legolas · 09-02-2004, 08:17 AM

It gives you +4 parry.

When parrying, when the other character makes an attack roll of D20 + attack bonus, you make an opposed attack roll of D20 + parry bonus. The difference between those determines whether or not your parry is succesful, and if there's going to be a riposte.

Jim · 09-08-2004, 08:32 AM

Thanks Legolas!

They must have changed this feat at some point then, since it does indeed merely grant a +4 skill bonus to the Parry skill. It no longer has anything at all to do with the opposed attack roll as stated in its description. If they're going to start changing feats then they could at least change the feat descriptions so we know what's going on!

I wonder why a 13 INT required for something that skill focus -> parry basically already does anyway? It was much better getting +4 to hit and damage when parrying

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09-02-2004, 06:55 AM	#1
Jim Quintesson Join Date: May 1, 2001 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, England Age: 43 Posts: 1,088	Hello everyone! I'm exploring the parry skill at the moment, and would like to know what exactly the "improved parry" feat does. In the past I used to think that the riposte attacks were made with a +4 bonus to hit/damage, but now I'm not so sure. The counter attacks are made at the same attack bonus and there is no bonus to damage with my current character, so does this mean that improved parry merely gives a +4 bonus to the parry skill? If this is indeed the case, then I wonder why the feat description is worded as "The character gains a +4 competence bonus to his opposed attack roll"? Thanks!

09-02-2004, 08:17 AM	#2
Legolas Jack Burton Join Date: March 31, 2001 Location: The zephyr lands beneath the brine. Age: 39 Posts: 5,459	It gives you +4 parry. When parrying, when the other character makes an attack roll of D20 + attack bonus, you make an opposed attack roll of D20 + parry bonus. The difference between those determines whether or not your parry is succesful, and if there's going to be a riposte.

09-08-2004, 08:32 AM	#3
Jim Quintesson Join Date: May 1, 2001 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, England Age: 43 Posts: 1,088	Thanks Legolas! They must have changed this feat at some point then, since it does indeed merely grant a +4 skill bonus to the Parry skill. It no longer has anything at all to do with the opposed attack roll as stated in its description. If they're going to start changing feats then they could at least change the feat descriptions so we know what's going on! I wonder why a 13 INT required for something that skill focus -> parry basically already does anyway? It was much better getting +4 to hit and damage when parrying .

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