Mind Flayers

DapperDanMan · 06-28-2004, 03:05 PM

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Why are they(flayers) so freaking hard to kill, and why can they instantly kill you? It's hardly fair, one minute you have full health and the next you are dead on the floor. Any ways that I can NOT die instantly from them? Any help would be great.

[ 06-28-2004, 03:06 PM: Message edited by: DapperDanMan ]

philip · 06-28-2004, 03:19 PM

They drain your INT, as far as I know they don't have any insta-kill abilities/spells unless you have really low INT. You could try drinking INT potions and using summons to keep the flayers away while you hit them ranged. You could also use ranged weapons and run away from them before they reach you.

Feral · 06-28-2004, 03:28 PM

It's not insta-kill (depending on your intelligence, I suppose). Each successful hit temporarily drains your intelligence by 5. When it gets to 0, you're dead. Low AC helps.

One way to fight the illithid is to build a wall of something between you and them. They can't drain you if they can't hit you. Summons are a good option. I've heard people have had good luck with using someone surrounded by Otiluke's Resillient Sphere as a barricade - I've never tried it.

Area of effect spells also help, although the flayers are very magic resistant.

It's good (=crucial) to protect your party members against the psionic blast, otherwise half of you will be running around like chickens with their heads cut off while the other half are getting their brains sucked out. Use chaotic commands.

Tell us what your party makeup is (including levels) and we can help you more.

[ 06-28-2004, 03:30 PM: Message edited by: Feral ]

DapperDanMan · 06-28-2004, 04:41 PM

well its just every time I go throgh the game, they always piss me off, and I end up using all of my summon spells to fend them off, then having to rest alot. I guess it's just a slow process. Is there anything that can completely shield you from their INT drain?

Black Baron · 06-28-2004, 04:49 PM

Summon 5 sceleton warriors and haste them. You will smash brain suckers in no time. Mordy swords are also great.

Protection from magical weapons helps too. Put a mage with chaotic commands on him and PFMW. Stupid Flayers will attack him, so just whack at them with your fighter.

DapperDanMan · 06-28-2004, 06:37 PM

thanks guys, I'll go try

Illumina Drathiran'ar · 06-28-2004, 08:26 PM

Well... you don't become one of the dominant races in the Underdark by being nice, you know? It's realistic, maybe even toned down... In PnP, all a mind flayer has to do is get a tentacle on a player's head and it's all over.

SixOfSpades · 06-29-2004, 09:50 PM

Most important: Do NOT let any character get Stunned by their Psionic Blasts. They will immediately make a beeline for the Stunned character (ignoring all threats to their own well-being), and since all attacks against a Stunned creature automatically hit, that party member is pretty much already dead. (In fact, ALL of the enemies in the game are smart enough to go after helpless people.)

Saving Throws. Saving Throws. Saving Throws.

Kay · 06-30-2004, 10:39 AM

Philip is right...the potions help. As for summoning (okay this is a lame, wimpy tactic, but I HATE mind flayers), I memorize two or more Mordenkainen's sword spells, keep the rest of my part at a distance, and let the disembodied weapon take care of business. Also, miniSPOILER:
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there is an amulet later in the game that offers temporary protection. Of course, you have to kill a lot of mind flayers to get it...

Xen · 06-30-2004, 10:46 AM

Also if you have a Cleric then by any means cast Chaotic Commands!

06-28-2004, 03:28 PM	#3
Feral Elminster Join Date: August 27, 2003 Location: The Great White North Age: 50 Posts: 462	It's not insta-kill (depending on your intelligence, I suppose). Each successful hit temporarily drains your intelligence by 5. When it gets to 0, you're dead. Low AC helps. One way to fight the illithid is to build a wall of something between you and them. They can't drain you if they can't hit you. Summons are a good option. I've heard people have had good luck with using someone surrounded by Otiluke's Resillient Sphere as a barricade - I've never tried it. Area of effect spells also help, although the flayers are very magic resistant. It's good (=crucial) to protect your party members against the psionic blast, otherwise half of you will be running around like chickens with their heads cut off while the other half are getting their brains sucked out. Use chaotic commands. Tell us what your party makeup is (including levels) and we can help you more. [ 06-28-2004, 03:30 PM: Message edited by: Feral ] __________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger.

06-28-2004, 04:49 PM	#5
Black Baron Red Wizard of Thay Join Date: September 7, 2003 Location: Israel Age: 39 Posts: 877	Summon 5 sceleton warriors and haste them. You will smash brain suckers in no time. Mordy swords are also great. Protection from magical weapons helps too. Put a mage with chaotic commands on him and PFMW. Stupid Flayers will attack him, so just whack at them with your fighter. __________________ Case from my reservist service: Kids attention, I have brought you something... Don't pull that ring private!!

06-28-2004, 08:26 PM	#7
Illumina Drathiran'ar Apophis Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: I can see the Manhattan skyline from my window. Age: 38 Posts: 4,673	Well... you don't become one of the dominant races in the Underdark by being nice, you know? It's realistic, maybe even toned down... In PnP, all a mind flayer has to do is get a tentacle on a player's head and it's all over. __________________ http://cavestory.org PLAY THIS GAME. Seriously. http://xkcd.com/386/ http://www.xkcd.com/406/ My heart is like my coffee. Black, bitter, icy, and with a straw.

06-29-2004, 09:50 PM	#8
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 46 Posts: 6,901	Most important: Do NOT let any character get Stunned by their Psionic Blasts. They will immediately make a beeline for the Stunned character (ignoring all threats to their own well-being), and since all attacks against a Stunned creature automatically hit, that party member is pretty much already dead. (In fact, ALL of the enemies in the game are smart enough to go after helpless people.) Saving Throws. Saving Throws. Saving Throws. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

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06-28-2004, 03:05 PM	#1
DapperDanMan Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 5, 2003 Location: washington Age: 37 Posts: 10	spoilers maybe * * * * * Why are they(flayers) so freaking hard to kill, and why can they instantly kill you? It's hardly fair, one minute you have full health and the next you are dead on the floor. Any ways that I can NOT die instantly from them? Any help would be great. [ 06-28-2004, 03:06 PM: Message edited by: DapperDanMan ]

06-28-2004, 03:19 PM	#2
philip Galvatron Join Date: June 24, 2002 Location: aa Posts: 2,101	They drain your INT, as far as I know they don't have any insta-kill abilities/spells unless you have really low INT. You could try drinking INT potions and using summons to keep the flayers away while you hit them ranged. You could also use ranged weapons and run away from them before they reach you.

06-28-2004, 04:41 PM	#4
DapperDanMan Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 5, 2003 Location: washington Age: 37 Posts: 10	well its just every time I go throgh the game, they always piss me off, and I end up using all of my summon spells to fend them off, then having to rest alot. I guess it's just a slow process. Is there anything that can completely shield you from their INT drain?

06-28-2004, 06:37 PM	#6
DapperDanMan Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 5, 2003 Location: washington Age: 37 Posts: 10	thanks guys, I'll go try

06-30-2004, 10:39 AM	#9
Kay Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: June 8, 2004 Location: Boston Age: 49 Posts: 17	Philip is right...the potions help. As for summoning (okay this is a lame, wimpy tactic, but I HATE mind flayers), I memorize two or more Mordenkainen's sword spells, keep the rest of my part at a distance, and let the disembodied weapon take care of business. Also, miniSPOILER: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * there is an amulet later in the game that offers temporary protection. Of course, you have to kill a lot of mind flayers to get it...

06-30-2004, 10:46 AM	#10
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 36 Posts: 8,554	Also if you have a Cleric then by any means cast Chaotic Commands!

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