Undead Hunter-Possibly One of the Best Classes in the game - Page 3

Dundee Slaytern · 10-20-2001, 11:43 PM

Ahhhh, but why wear a necklace to protect against Poison? When you can wear an amulet to boost your Magic Resistance? Or even better, wear the Amulet of Power to boost Magic Resistance and gain Level Drain Immunity.

SSJ4Sephiroth · 10-20-2001, 11:43 PM

actually, a Cavalier can use ranged weapons. i have mine using Azuredge to make him a super-efficient paladin

. just give him specialization in Axes, and he can use throwing axes extremely well!

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What are you saying? Are you trying to tell me you have feelings now? Ha, ha, ha... Stop acting as if you're sad. And there's no need to act as if you're angry either. Because, Cloud, you are... a puppet.

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floyd · 10-21-2001, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SecretMaster:
FLOYD, Do u mean PINK FLOYD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Answer me soon man.

no, just floyd

although pink floyd does rock.

Skunk · 10-21-2001, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Synthos:
By the way,Skunk, you can cast dispel magic three times per day w/ carsomyr, which is the same as inquisitor's dispel magic ability, unfortunately there is casting time, which is why i have aerie with her super fast casting with the robe of venca..
And Dundee Slayterm.. Periat of Proof against poison does the same as a cavalier's immunity..
The resistances are a nice idea, but it would be better if they improved in the course of levels

Not quite the same as the regular dispell magic.
1. Casting speed = 1
2. Dispels at X2 level (so it almost always works)
3. Range effect = 10ft
4. You have LOTS of dispel casts at your disposal

And of course, I want my mage to be busy casting offensive spells rather than dispeling them...

Kitty · 10-21-2001, 12:51 PM

Since you mentioned the Amulet of Power, I have a question: it states that it's not usable by thieves and fighters. And since paladins and rangers are considered as fighters for "item-using" purposes, paladins shouldn't be able to wear it.
If they can use the amulet, that's why undead hunters are so underrated, I guess. But I played as one and he really rocked. Having a +8 against undead (natural ability and Carsomyr) was very cool!

Dundee Slaytern · 10-22-2001, 12:57 AM

Paladins != Fighters

The Amulet of Power is usable by Paladins.

Synthos · 10-22-2001, 10:35 PM

Well, personally I think Amulet of Power should be restricted to mages and clerics, paticularly because the amulet was made for them.. Clerics and Mages are the only classes who can make good use of the -1 Casting Time and Vocalize, since rangers are paladins are NOT good spellcasters (i don't care what you think, they AREN'T).. The only cross-class ability the amulet gives out that is ok for other classes to use is the immunity to level drain, which is (pretty much) what this topic's about...

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eath
Synthos, looks at
Carsomyr +5...: Man I love this sword!

Dundee Slaytern · 10-22-2001, 10:57 PM

Yeah, they may not be the best spell-casters in the world, but they are still spell-casters. Heh, do not forget that they also benefit from the +5% Magic Resistance, and Vocalise is applicable to them. I want my Cavalier to be able to use her spells.

floyd · 10-23-2001, 02:31 AM

the amulet is also useable by monks, who cast no spells whatsoever. I think its a bug; its too powerful to give a monk or paladin permenant immunity to level drain, IMO.

tehmpus · 10-23-2001, 04:20 AM

First: Why on Earth would any respectable gamer want to play a highlevel campaign with a paladin unable to cast clerical spells?

Second: A good way to avoid all those restarts against the beholders is to memorize the wiz spell Protection from Paralyzation. This stops you from being turned to stone. And if worse comes to worse, just use one of those handy Stone to Flesh scrolls... they're cheap.

Third: Steal yourself about 10 Greater Restoration scrolls. No need to restart tons of times due to level drain. Just be smart about it and make certain your chars have their best AC up (including spells like Prot/Evil,Harmony). Plus it it never hurts to memorize yee ol Negative Plane Protection spell if you "know" that your guy is going to get hit.

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10-22-2001, 10:35 PM	#27
Synthos Manshoon Join Date: October 19, 2001 Posts: 157	Well, personally I think Amulet of Power should be restricted to mages and clerics, paticularly because the amulet was made for them.. Clerics and Mages are the only classes who can make good use of the -1 Casting Time and Vocalize, since rangers are paladins are NOT good spellcasters (i don't care what you think, they AREN'T).. The only cross-class ability the amulet gives out that is ok for other classes to use is the immunity to level drain, which is (pretty much) what this topic's about... ------------------ SlashSlash* Demi-Licheath Synthos, looks at Carsomyr +5...: Man I love this sword!

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10-20-2001, 11:43 PM	#21
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Ahhhh, but why wear a necklace to protect against Poison? When you can wear an amulet to boost your Magic Resistance? Or even better, wear the Amulet of Power to boost Magic Resistance and gain Level Drain Immunity.

10-20-2001, 11:43 PM	#22
SSJ4Sephiroth Beholder Join Date: May 4, 2001 Location: The Outside Looking In Age: 37 Posts: 4,361	actually, a Cavalier can use ranged weapons. i have mine using Azuredge to make him a super-efficient paladin . just give him specialization in Axes, and he can use throwing axes extremely well! ------------------ It's simple. Once the Planet is hurt, it gathers Spirit Energy to heal the injury. The amount of energy gathered depends on the size of the injury...What would happen if there was an injury that threatened the very life of the Planet? Think how much energy would be gathered! Ha, ha, ha. And at the center of that injury, wil be me. All that boundless energy will be mine. By merging with the energy of the Planet, I will be come a new life form, a new existence. Melding with the Planet, I will cease to exist as I am now. Only to be reborn as a 'God' to rule over every living soul. What are you saying? Are you trying to tell me you have feelings now? Ha, ha, ha... Stop acting as if you're sad. And there's no need to act as if you're angry either. Because, Cloud, you are... a puppet. Shadow Dragon of the DotW Super Sephiroth, slayer of the Uber Fluffy, and battle co-ordionator and defender of the HADB clan. Follower of the mighty Fallen Paladin himself. Diplomacy is all and well, but HADB is better! Head of the IronWorks Intelligence Division Official Soup Server and bumper of Cloudy's Cafe Possessor of the Aerie Diamond Head from the ALSB. Page in the Court of Lady Lioness Stalking the woodlands, the Lioness in my sight, warm feelings doth come, into my lonely heart

10-21-2001, 12:51 PM	#25
Kitty Manshoon Join Date: July 22, 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 153	Since you mentioned the Amulet of Power, I have a question: it states that it's not usable by thieves and fighters. And since paladins and rangers are considered as fighters for "item-using" purposes, paladins shouldn't be able to wear it. If they can use the amulet, that's why undead hunters are so underrated, I guess. But I played as one and he really rocked. Having a +8 against undead (natural ability and Carsomyr) was very cool!

10-22-2001, 12:57 AM	#26
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Paladins != Fighters The Amulet of Power is usable by Paladins.

10-22-2001, 10:57 PM	#28
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Yeah, they may not be the best spell-casters in the world, but they are still spell-casters. Heh, do not forget that they also benefit from the +5% Magic Resistance, and Vocalise is applicable to them. I want my Cavalier to be able to use her spells.

10-23-2001, 02:31 AM	#29
floyd Zhentarim Guard Join Date: June 21, 2001 Posts: 306	the amulet is also useable by monks, who cast no spells whatsoever. I think its a bug; its too powerful to give a monk or paladin permenant immunity to level drain, IMO.

10-23-2001, 04:20 AM	#30
tehmpus The Magister Join Date: October 16, 2001 Location: Anytown, IL USA Posts: 121	First: Why on Earth would any respectable gamer want to play a highlevel campaign with a paladin unable to cast clerical spells? Second: A good way to avoid all those restarts against the beholders is to memorize the wiz spell Protection from Paralyzation. This stops you from being turned to stone. And if worse comes to worse, just use one of those handy Stone to Flesh scrolls... they're cheap. Third: Steal yourself about 10 Greater Restoration scrolls. No need to restart tons of times due to level drain. Just be smart about it and make certain your chars have their best AC up (including spells like Prot/Evil,Harmony). Plus it it never hurts to memorize yee ol Negative Plane Protection spell if you "know" that your guy is going to get hit. ------------------ Tehmpus Thales the permanently InSaNe

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