Unwanted software snuck into your PC

Harkoliar · 03-03-2003, 07:18 AM

[img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img] im kinda angry right now that some stupid website that (unknowingly supports porn) placed a dialup porn website program without my consent or knowing. since i was also using dial up, i all of a sudden got disconnected and them have my modem dial an international no to connect to a porn website without me knowing (since i left it for 5 min) thank goodness the phone line was busy or else i would be in deep trouble explaining to my parents why i was connecting international (very expensive) and of all things PORN. [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img] . now because of this kind of stupid incident, i was thinking of having a firewall installed now in my computer (nothing goes or exits wihtout my consend

) but the problem is that i also have kazza in my computer so i dont know if that would be affected. i also the trend pc-cllin antivirus, yahoo, aol and (now installing msn) chat program. so i wonder if those programs will also get affected.. help? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

Sir Krustin · 03-03-2003, 07:32 AM

First step, complain to the website where the dialer was installed.

Second step, do get a firewall, ZoneAlarm Pro is very, very good.

You are right in that it will affect all your outgoing software, but you can set certain apps to "always allow" or "always deny", and unknown apps to either "always deny", or "query" (asks you if you want it to get through).

ZoneAlarm has a database in it's control panel that allows you to customize it's settings, whether or not a certain app can be a server or just a client for example.

Harkoliar · 03-03-2003, 07:48 AM

i check it out in the internet, it looks good but i dont have the money for it.

is there any alternatives for freeware firewall? im also checking download.com. there is recommendation for sygate firewall and tiny firewall as being popular... i check these out also [img]smile.gif[/img]

Horatio · 03-03-2003, 07:54 AM

I have Zone Alarm, and Kazaa Lite. When I start Kazaa Lite, it just asks me if I want it connected to the internet, and if I want it acting as a server thats it. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Bungleau · 03-03-2003, 08:39 AM

I thought ZoneAlarm had a light version that is freeware. You might take another look.

I tried Sygate in the past, but it was a limited license that lasted 30 days (or something like that). Tiny (aka tpfw) was good, but it felt very technical to me. It asked me about everything trying to go out, and I had no idea there were so many programs trying to do that! I ended up giving up on it because I was unsure what I could safely prevent or disable.

Cloudbringer · 03-03-2003, 08:44 AM

Zone Alarm can be downloaded free, I think. Nachtrafe uses it, while I use Black Ice Defender. I really love Black Ice and haven't had any problems with it. I'd say you should definitely get some kind of firewall! You could try Zone Alarm if you want a free one and then see how you like it. If it's not what you want, research some of the ones mentioned here and get one!

I think Sir K is right about reporting the incident to the website, too!

Harkoliar · 03-03-2003, 08:56 AM

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I think Sir K is right about reporting the incident to the website, too!

the problem was that i got angry, i just closed off the website without remembering to bookmark or address. :embarrassed: i got it off hotmail i think in one of those interesting "junkmail". too bad i already deleted them permenently. ill checking again with zone alarm.. i could have missed that freeware program for it [img]smile.gif[/img]

Bungleau · 03-03-2003, 09:01 AM

I really liked Black Ice Defender. Heck, the first night I had it installed, I saw notification of seven attempts to probe my system... about every 40 minutes!

Only thing I didn't like is that (at least at that time) BID protected against incoming traffic only. If someone snuck a trojan into your system (like a dialer program), that program had free reign once it kicked off. TPFW, Zone Alarm, and others also protect against outgoing traffic.

One thing I forgot to mention: set your browser to prompt you any time there's a file that wants to be downloaded. That way, you can know if someone's trying to sneak something in. If you let it come in anyway... not much more the poor computer can do, can it?

Harkoliar · 03-03-2003, 09:29 AM

i finally got that zone alarm program. [img]smile.gif[/img] i do have a question though.. it looks kinda complicated and i dont think i can understand even half of the function of what is does in zone alarm. i just placed in in medium security. i keep getting that netbios thingie from the internet.. can anyone explain what that means?

LordKathen · 03-03-2003, 09:48 AM

By gibbies are for hire for a nominal fee (through dial-up) to take care of any problems you may have.

Sorry Hark, could'nt resist, I would tell every authority type you can. This crap wont stop unless we stop it.

03-03-2003, 07:18 AM	#1
Harkoliar Jack Burton Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Philippines, but now Harbor City Sydney Age: 41 Posts: 5,556	[img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img] im kinda angry right now that some stupid website that (unknowingly supports porn) placed a dialup porn website program without my consent or knowing. since i was also using dial up, i all of a sudden got disconnected and them have my modem dial an international no to connect to a porn website without me knowing (since i left it for 5 min) thank goodness the phone line was busy or else i would be in deep trouble explaining to my parents why i was connecting international (very expensive) and of all things PORN. [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img] . now because of this kind of stupid incident, i was thinking of having a firewall installed now in my computer (nothing goes or exits wihtout my consend ) but the problem is that i also have kazza in my computer so i dont know if that would be affected. i also the trend pc-cllin antivirus, yahoo, aol and (now installing msn) chat program. so i wonder if those programs will also get affected.. help? [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] __________________ Catch me if you can..

03-03-2003, 07:32 AM	#2
Sir Krustin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: September 15, 2002 Location: Peterborough, ON, CANADA Age: 60 Posts: 1,394	First step, complain to the website where the dialer was installed. Second step, do get a firewall, ZoneAlarm Pro is very, very good. You are right in that it will affect all your outgoing software, but you can set certain apps to "always allow" or "always deny", and unknown apps to either "always deny", or "query" (asks you if you want it to get through). ZoneAlarm has a database in it's control panel that allows you to customize it's settings, whether or not a certain app can be a server or just a client for example. __________________ If I say \"Eject!\" and you say \"Huh?\" - you\'ll be talking to yourself! - Maj. Bannister, <b>Steel Tiger</b>

03-03-2003, 07:48 AM	#3
Harkoliar Jack Burton Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Philippines, but now Harbor City Sydney Age: 41 Posts: 5,556	i check it out in the internet, it looks good but i dont have the money for it. is there any alternatives for freeware firewall? im also checking download.com. there is recommendation for sygate firewall and tiny firewall as being popular... i check these out also [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ Catch me if you can..

03-03-2003, 07:54 AM	#4
Horatio Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: September 19, 2001 Location: Behind these metal bars Age: 41 Posts: 3,117	I have Zone Alarm, and Kazaa Lite. When I start Kazaa Lite, it just asks me if I want it connected to the internet, and if I want it acting as a server thats it. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ I <b>am</b> the party!!<br /> [img]\"http://zert0.net/iuti/img2/1381585-vi.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

03-03-2003, 08:39 AM	#5
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	I thought ZoneAlarm had a light version that is freeware. You might take another look. I tried Sygate in the past, but it was a limited license that lasted 30 days (or something like that). Tiny (aka tpfw) was good, but it felt very technical to me. It asked me about everything trying to go out, and I had no idea there were so many programs trying to do that! I ended up giving up on it because I was unsure what I could safely prevent or disable. __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

03-03-2003, 08:44 AM	#6
Cloudbringer Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Upstate NY USA Posts: 19,737	Zone Alarm can be downloaded free, I think. Nachtrafe uses it, while I use Black Ice Defender. I really love Black Ice and haven't had any problems with it. I'd say you should definitely get some kind of firewall! You could try Zone Alarm if you want a free one and then see how you like it. If it's not what you want, research some of the ones mentioned here and get one! I think Sir K is right about reporting the incident to the website, too! __________________ "Don't take life for granted." Animal (may he rest in peace)

03-03-2003, 09:01 AM	#8
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	I really liked Black Ice Defender. Heck, the first night I had it installed, I saw notification of seven attempts to probe my system... about every 40 minutes! Only thing I didn't like is that (at least at that time) BID protected against incoming traffic only. If someone snuck a trojan into your system (like a dialer program), that program had free reign once it kicked off. TPFW, Zone Alarm, and others also protect against outgoing traffic. One thing I forgot to mention: set your browser to prompt you any time there's a file that wants to be downloaded. That way, you can know if someone's trying to sneak something in. If you let it come in anyway... not much more the poor computer can do, can it? __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

03-03-2003, 09:29 AM	#9
Harkoliar Jack Burton Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Philippines, but now Harbor City Sydney Age: 41 Posts: 5,556	i finally got that zone alarm program. [img]smile.gif[/img] i do have a question though.. it looks kinda complicated and i dont think i can understand even half of the function of what is does in zone alarm. i just placed in in medium security. i keep getting that netbios thingie from the internet.. can anyone explain what that means? __________________ Catch me if you can..

03-03-2003, 09:48 AM	#10
LordKathen Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: September 15, 2002 Location: Kennewick, WA Age: 52 Posts: 3,166	By gibbies are for hire for a nominal fee (through dial-up) to take care of any problems you may have. Sorry Hark, could'nt resist, I would tell every authority type you can. This crap wont stop unless we stop it. __________________

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